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Discussion in 'Archive' started by Pazak, Aug 23, 2013.

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  1. Pazak

    Pazak Innova Group

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    hey, guys!

    today i would like to ask you to pass a small survey on the experimentarium!
    we are trying to recieve some feedback, so we could make a decision on how to make it even better! :cool:
    http://4ga.me/19op7h5

    if you have any suggestions on this topic, feel free to leave a message in this thread.
     
  2. Pr0t0n

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    that survey lacks depth.
     
  3. Nyweris

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    for sure... try harder next time :/ but was fun, kind off :>
     
  4. NemesysX

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    the whole concept is wrong. in all years of l2, hardcore players waste a lot of time and adena for these experiments.
    this was one of the reasons pro players were better than the rest, discovering a weakness or a strength in game mechanics
    or combinations of buffs and/or statistics from items/dyes w/e.those secrets were balance changing for a long time,
    especially in olympiad games. now every no hand trash has access to information that used to be secret even among same grp players lol.
    imo it is wrong, u want best setup for your toon, go find it on your own. it is a highly competitive game, and experimentum is interfering in that. focking /delete it.
     
  5. Alarion

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    neme ******, dont forget if you are handless on oly like many ppl w/o scriptorz are, there is no konwledge which gonna help you... : )
     
  6. NemesysX

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    yes alarion but imagine how bad it would be for u, if experiment show to ignorant healers among us how usefull is pow in healer cb, good for you this lol thread didnt exist 2 years ago, when we started playing here.
     
  7. Pr0t0n

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    pow in healer cb is as useful as a water gun underwater...
     
  8. Alarion

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    well that's true, still remember low topless with auto script on re-drum after i used pow myslef : dd
     
  9. Pazak

    Pazak Innova Group

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    the poll is finished! you can leave your comment on it here)

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  10. FeeLSD

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    that was really bad survey that did not tell you anything at all except that l2 gamers are interested in l2 mechanics (real revelation).
     
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  11. sixsense

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    i agree with neme because it exposes games secrets or advice you how to be better without thinking. it makes players to make best builds on own chars without knowing things. everything now is nearly automatic in this game , you can't show lot of skills just because of that. some players can't even develop own knowledge because you always feed them with this kind of information and they just wait to get this peace of cake. you can continue doing these tests but i think it's not right because you expose other people and just make the game even more easy for others and boring.
     
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  12. qre8ive

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    i strongly agree on the game becoming too easy if innova figures out for players what's best to use and what not.

    tests for % from items i guess are ok, or testing rate of bear. but don't go test whatever is best for a certain class, let people figure that out on their own.

    figuring things out, sharing it (or not) with friends/clan ... it's all part of the game and it's being taken away partly by the tests.
     
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  13. Walkirye

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    come on ppl!... are u saying that, just a guy can be "pro" for read an a experiment? are u kidding me?. any player who want to be "on top" know that, they need a lot of support to make his char compettitive, and noone experiment will wive us free adena or equipment at all.
    and, its boring if u have more competition, more good players in your same class?... i think that l2 was a game of "be the best one" (like hero sistem)... if u dont have competition for your class, how in the hell u will be abble to say "im the best of all"?
    and, if u look at experiments, anyone on the staff provides you real advantages, they just try variatons/builds, and then we can compare them, and decide by aouselves what is best for our char.

    pd: if u dont have brain, teamwork and some hands, u can get the best setup, but still u will be a bad player.
     
  14. qre8ive

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    no ... people are saying that not everything should be figured out by innova... players should do it themselves. seriously ... is everybody nowadays too lazy to figure out stuff on their own or what?

    https://4gameforum.com/showthread.php?t=18465

    like this ... "i'm too lazy to try it myself or ask others ... please figure it out for me so i know which to make for pvp"
     
  15. Yunalesca

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    lol what game secrets, in tests where you have to put a number of 10'000 tries and still be unsure of the real determination of a factor, this a secret? how can an old player know of something that is humanly impossible without data or proper testing? all knowledge ingame and the suposed "secrets" come from accurate testing in the past(like from l2 tawain childofheaven or l2labs) that you or any other "old player" was told of. these tests have been in the making for years and you complain that innova is doing them now, everyone here, tops or not were subject to the "easierness" that you speak off since 6 or more years.
     
  16. Nyweris

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    +++ gogogo tests! btw good players will notice, that some of them shows not accurate info and noobs can fail on dat :>
     
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