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  1. thunder1989

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    hello, i have started the game as a spoiler thinking that i would be rich selling mats,but since all the ppl want party random including spoil i have abandoned the spoiler. i had nerver played as a dagger i hated the daggers,but now i love them and because it i made a dark elf dagger,thinking that he would be the best. i still like it but some days ago a tyrr warrior level 87,me level 87 too,made 26k of damage just with coliseum buff and i think wtf?. it doest matter, i still like daggers. in the first day of play i have seen archers in pvp and they are amazing and i was thinking made one archer as dual class. when i started the game i knew that after 85 it is a party based game,and because is hard to find party with othell, i made a healer with archer subclass,but when i go to s3 as healer at the 10 minutes i am sleeepy that is very boring. now i want a kamael othell rogue,because i think is the best stats combination,and main archer, but i am scared that finally i like more archer than dagger and i spend 100kk for nothing. i know also that i need a support class,preferly not healer(it is the more needed but..) why not iss,but the most important for me is be kamael othell. for finish idk what to do, the reason said me that i should to do a support claas like iss( i dont like tank) but if i do iss i cant be othell kamael,and what about archers?
     
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  2. ginaki7

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    you are saying everything a little confusing but as i see you are confused between archer dagger and iss(?).well if you want kamael only just for the stats your only options are kamael yul main with dualclass dagger(reawaken paying 100kk).archers do incredible dmg and are always welcome in pts due to high dmg and aoe...daggers also welcome for the halfkills they do(especially after 93 xp pts could use a lot of lethals like crossroads for example.)you say you would like a support but not healer cause you get bored(true i was healer at west and after 93 i was just sitting heal and recharge here and there).you dont like tank so iss your last option.iss will buff the pt and hit mobs doing his debuff....we need iss in every pt bu t can you live with it?mainly you will be buffer/debuffer and not dd.if you want both dd and support go for kamael yul main and dual iss.if you see that you are more into dds then make yul with dagger dual.w/e you chose i believe you wont regret archer as main...plus you will have extra pvp dmg with kamael yul.personally i am main tank and i liked it but i get bored sometimes thats why i made yul dual and i am just ok.so the real question is apart from main kamael yul what you want as dualsub?a buffer or a close range dd with halfkills?
     
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  3. thunder1989

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    thank you, the problem is that i want for sure kamael dagger,and i would like have one iss,about archer... i could dont have it but... i actually dont see sense to have 2dd's yul and dagger, and i am acostumate to daggers. i would like to do kamael dagger as main but i know that it is imposible,for have kamael dagger i have to renounce to be iss,i cant go oly,hard to find party, i dont really know. i dont know why i should to have two dd's and i would like to know more about yul's playstyle if it is funny and theay are not a sheet of paper like daggers maybe i do archer and iss or idk i am very confused i just have clear that i want kamael othell.
     
  4. Elles

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    make dark elf dagger iss, problem solved

    stats are similar

    regards
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  5. thunder1989

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    not not solved i have othell gh and kamael have more dex and con,less stun,more half kills(i think)
     
  6. ginaki7

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    well since you make it clear that you want kamael you have 2 options:
    1)yul main / dagger dualclass
    2)yul main / iss dualclass

    ofc if you decide you dont want yul you can always replace it with feoh main or tyrr main...w/e you chose if you are bound to kamael iss and dagger can only be made as dual class on them.
     
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    for those who decided to get a dd class as main and dual, the reasons are :
    - they don't want to invest into a new armor set at level 85, 95, 99
    - different gameplay between a range dd and a melee dd
    - others reasons

    s3 party are like playing like a brainless or zombie (s2 being worst) :d. that's why you get fastly bored and sleepy. you should try playing healer at a higher level because at level 90-, you cannot get a full clue of your class power.
     
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  8. Elles

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    so pick light elf, it has more dex/con

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  9. ginaki7

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    neo tiger is right his answer was the best...i played my bf's healer in crossroads and beleive me you cant get bored there since you recharge all time and aways been alerted cause 2-3 ppl from pt can die by one mistake.so there i dont think you get bored...also at guillotine fortress you heal and recharge continusly so you cant bored...think about 90+ instances or 95+i think at seed of hellfire also healer are pretty active cause i have heared ppl in r99 can get 1 shot or in other 97+ areas...a friend is main yul and dual dagger so basicaly he only invest on weapon gear.i as tank could do tyrr or iss and get advantage of armor but still i chose yul...so your only probl is you want kamael dagger...and your only options is feoh/yl/tyrr kamael main and then w/e dual to reawaken it on dagger.i like on yuls the aoe dmg and range but on daggers i love the halfkills.ofc all depend on the pt setup you will join:aoe pt or based halfkill pt?having a yul and dagger you have variety of options.decision is yours according to what you want most.
     
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  10. thunder1989

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    i have heard that othell's are a crystal cannon,archers ar crystal cannon too?
     
  11. Bboy Wizard

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    your first mistake is right there.

    i haven't had a problem with people yet by making my own parties with loot set to random but i have yet to do a grind party yet on this server. regardless you've obviously given up hope of ever changing somebodies mind about the way they just take spoiled mats with no effort made by them (if i hear **** about healers shouldn't heal/iss shouldn't buff etc etc you are still thinking too much about yourself and not others).

    othell's are an essential dd to party zones with high hp/high defense monsters, regardless of what othell class you are and if you are good enough with an othell you will beat this silly people who think archers are instant win in pvp because the simple answer is they just prey on the weak, the people who have trouble loading into areas and the unskilled.

    but if you want to take the easy path that's completely your decision to make!
     
  12. thunder1989

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    instant win xd
     
  13. thunder1989

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    are archers crystal cannons?
     
  14. Bboy Wizard

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    i would believe if you killed one there would be a 70% chance of it shattering into a million idiot pieces.
     
  15. thunder1989

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    finally i will continue with my dark elf dagger and maybe i do dual class iss
     
  16. ginaki7

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    best option for me since you can go oly with your beloved dagger :)
     
  17. Bboy Wizard

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    where archers are 'crystal cannons' ;p
     
  18. ginaki7

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    maybe you did the wrong quote....why you mention archers to me?
     
  19. ginaki7

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    nvm got it later...still to earlie morning for me :d well i can never be sure about archers in oly since i main tank :p
     
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