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Another thread about PKk system.

Discussion in 'Archive' started by aristo, Dec 13, 2011.

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  1. aristo

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  2. Krontas

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    the text is wrong. you get for every pk a pk point. if your each 31 you can drop items. and you dont get karma if you kill a player.
     
  3. aristo

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    well i believe the text is correct. moderators of this forum used this link in threads related to pk system. so any ideas why did i get -1800 reputation/karma after 2 pk?
     
  4. MinDiuse

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    because you pk at low lvl - go create a new character
     
  5. aristo

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    i see...so it's better to leave option to pk on low levels (so ppl that are not aware of this new 'brillant' improvement are forced to reroll after one kill) rather then just block it.
     
  6. Koren

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    ok. tells us how they would block it please, without disabling any pvp action.
     
  7. -Gojo-

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    does anyone have any info for faster cleaning karma? i get only 2 rep from mob so i need to kill 340 more :/
    i heard something about kama cleaning a lot of reputation. can someone confirm this?
     
  8. Nicomm

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    from what i read, karma cleaning is based on the xp gain whether it is a mob or a quest.
    the more xp you make, the more karma you clean... doing a kama gives lots of xp, meaning you'll clean lots of karma.
     
  9. aristo

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    u mean like if block with $level variable in the code? rrrocket science dude! x). here's example of if block for you:

    if {you stop asking not important questions} then
    maybe we will stay focused on the core of the problem and find out if penalties are bugged - and if they are correct then it's a new level of "user friendly" in my gaming experience...
    endif;

    hugs ^^
     
  10. Koren

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    many of us know how to code, my question was quite simple.
    block pk ? how ?
    by removing ctrl key ? and if i flag someone with nick in white, hp can't go under 1hp so i don't kill him and i'm not pk ?
    enabling free pk, killing everyone without behing red ?

    think about it and you'll see it's not possible to block it under a certain lvl without disabling any pvp action

    btw, it's "if() then", not "if{} then"

    hugs


    edit: and i'm not saying penalty is fair (i find it abusive too), i'm just saying that your proposition of removing it is nonsence
     
  11. aristo

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    well, if creators decide to limit pk on low levels, it's up to them to create balanced system and find technical solution to achieve it. i have some idea how to change the system but not going to present it here, couse this thread will end up with novice-level posts about "i wish it was like..." and "in other mmo i played before there was...". if we say about nonsense: -1800 reputation after 2 pk is a nonsence for me.

    {} are usually used to mark place for variable - condition in this case. i assume you know it was only symbolic?

    ps. looks like you are very talented topic changer m8, what you wanna start with now? c++ functions overloading or vbs case block syntax? ;)
     
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  12. Nicomm

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    if something must be changed, it's the correspondance xp = karma point

    i don't know the exact number, but it's something like 15k xp = 1 karma point
    the problem is that it doesn't take level into account, meaning a level 1 will never be able to get ride of the karma while a lvl 80+ will easily get those xp points.

    something scaling the xp cost of karma to the level of the character would be great.
     
  13. Koren

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    1. you didn't huged me this time. i'm disapointed.
    2. i just posted a reply to your post, so i'm not the topic changer here

    regards
     
  14. buffme

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    pk system=fail

    today had such situation - we went with a party to make some rb - then some random guy comes in and ask if we need help, we said we dont and he run away - then when he saw we are about to finish rb he just came back and tried to ks rb with last hit.. and the thing is we cant even pk this guy cos massive karma which will ruin the game.. having around 700 karma is like having a 700 mobs quest! we did please him we told him we dont need any help but he just stay there and run around tryin to ks our rb.. thats just bad system, its some kind of mistunderstanding.. soon it gonna be only pvmonsters server cos no1 can kill each other who want to ruin your raid etc
     
  15. Koren

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    edit: forum error, was posting in another thread
    edit2: my bad, threads merged

    i was saying:

    you can't ks a raid boss. drops are reserved to the group of ppl that made the most damage, like mobs.
    the only thing he will steal is xp and sp and it is proportional of the amount of damage he did. (so he will get nothing)

    the only thing you can ks is quest related monsters
     
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  16. Nicomm

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    rtfm !

    you can pk guys like this, just learn what to do and you'll be fine and will be able to kill him without even going into the red zone !
    and i'm pretty sure by killing him before the rb, the guy would have had very little karma.
    and as koren say, he can't steal the drop like this.
     
  17. olprax

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    just stop cry
     
  18. aristo

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    does all of your 8 posts are so eloquent? imo u think too much about crying...

    can we lock this topic? it goes nowhere...new system is great, less pkers more ponies! :*
     
  19. buffme

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    anothe situation

    another (potentialy) situation massive tvt on some instance fighting each other then some newbie comes up 1 bad macro and u pk him and u have to make new account cos of high amount of karma.. thats sick..

    btw
    ive pked some guy who was stealing my mobs for spoil and i got 770 karma.. and cant get rid of it cos mobs i was killing gave me -1 karma ! just great, let him steal all mobs in the area and i cant do nothin about it cos he wont go away even if i beg him and wont flag out if i attack him.. yea lets just make this player vs monsters server :))) pk system ftw im done bye

    ps
    ty for moving my thread and sorry i made another one ^^ just frustrated a bit about whole situation.
     
  20. Apophis

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    @buffme i understand your frustation cause i don't like it either but we need to get used with it and understand it better. from what i understand if you farm other pk chars you get +reputation and if you have enough you won't turn red when pk, just loose some of your reputation and gain a pk point. if it's like that is not that bad. didn't tested yet :)
     
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