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Botting- NO!!!

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Geltt, Nov 21, 2013.

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What you think about bot on CORE.

  1. YES i love playing with BOTS.

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    17.1%
  2. I hate BOTS, make more pain for BOT users

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  1. Geltt

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    hello :)
    i want to say some thing about botting. cause ppl make tickets to support with bot, and only thing is ban bot account. so bot make new char in 1 day and he farm again. can i ask why ppl who are owners of army bots, who trade with them, take adena, drops, items etc.. dont get any ban or smth like that?
    solution is easy trade/mail logs and ban main char, sure for some ppl world end, but when i watch that befor event card ther was no shop with ls with 2k+ more, now go rune/aden and see 5k 3k 4k and its normal? i saw even shop with orc card with number 3k. ofc someone will tell me that he farm. but when ppl make 100% bot support ticket, automatic that bot account shoud be scaned, cause alone bot is not buying and then using some imba cost things.
    ppl coming to core serwer for boting politicy, but as we can see banning only bot account, and let owner to take all adena/items/stuff from his slave is not good. owner will make one more bot army in 1 day, and make another much adena until someone raport him again.
    and dont tell me that forum mods dont speak with support team, you can tell them that core community want more pain for bot owners, even with ban main account.
     
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  2. Zebedin

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    ofc everyone that use bot should be perma banned
     
  3. A1S2D3

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    i told ya from the beggining if botters would care about this server you wouldnt stop them... anyway seems like it is happening bots + drop runes 300% + l2store transforming , goodluck holding the wave...
     
  4. Zebedin

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    can you explain me how this rune drop rate working ?
     
  5. Geltt

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    i think main problem is that bot account is only baned, and ppl who get profit from using bots are still playing on their mains.
     
  6. Brofist

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    consider this situation:
    1. i will be botting on a box account
    2. i'll farm 3kkk
    3. i'll mail it to some enemy whom i don't like so much
    4. he'll see the mail, thinks to himself "oo free 3 billions, gief!"
    5. gm finds out i'm botting on that box
    6. gm bans my enemy because he has been profiting from my bot
    7. ???
    8. win

    this is why the thing you're saying is flawed.
     
  7. Geltt

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    mails you can refuse. :) or resend it back.
    in real life you also belive that someone give you 1bilion $ for free?
     
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  8. mitsubishi

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    not rly, bcz they will check ip i guess, if ur "enemy" didn't use bot/that char, he can't get ban. ofc they are also dynamic ip but even with that gms know how to fight, i hope.
     
  9. Brofist

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    but in game people make mistakes. sending mails accidentally to other people, selling stuff on ah for 400k instead of 400kk etc. maybe the person would think that the bot tried to send him a scam payment on delivery email and made a mistake. if somebody would send other people a mail with three billions, i assure you that 99% of the player community would accept them.
    and if this would get the person banned, then i assure you, that there will be people from both sides doing this stuff just to get rid of people they hate the most. the same way as they report each other for swearing and account sharing now.

    there are also proxy servers and i imagine that most botters would use them anyway. gms can't fight proxy servers, it's impossible. they're also fairly cheap.
     
  10. Geltt

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    y so better do nothing and make free bots? i want game with real ppl not with army of bots, so i prefer to ban main account whois owner of bot dualbox, i rly dont care how they will find ppl who create bots for farm. if ppl will know that they can lose main account if ther will be connection betwen bot and main, they will think twice.
     
  11. Brofist

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    in other words: you don't care that innocent people could be caught in this and you can also wipe your *** with the presumption of innocence.
    remember that in mmos if something can be exploited, then it will be exploited. the bot situation deserves a better solution than banning the person who has benefited from the bots because that can be abused harshly. there is also no way to tell who is owner of the bots if the botter is smart enough to use proxies.
    so i guess if you can't come up with a better solution, you better remain silent before you make thing worse for everybody.
     
  12. Geltt

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    so you think that whole adena what he farm he put to wh and keep it for 2 years? he dont make trade,drop, send it to another account? in what world you live?
     
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  13. Brofist

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    okay, please read what i said again. if they'd decide to ban people who benefit from bothing, then a lot of innocent people could get caught in it. by the way i think that's the reason why they aren't doing that already.
     
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  14. Geltt

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    if admins will spend more time for proper hunting such ppl, im sure that innocent ppl wont be.
    financial crime irl also need more time and proper efords, for sure some ppl will be smarter, but harder you can run bot= less ppl will try it.
     
  15. A1S2D3

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    they cannot do that the only thing they can is punish the account who is abusing , but not a person itself in this case his other accounts so unless someone step up now and do something or soon enough whole server will be infiltrated with bots , seems like frost security days has passed away...
     
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  16. Brofist

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    admins should fix the npc server in the first place. the second thing is they only can spend as much time in game hunting for bots as they get payed for, and i'm sure they're already maximizing this. the problem is that it's not an easy fight and instead of crying on forums and showing more people that botting is indeed possible on core, you should just report the issue and remain silent. the more people know botting is somehow possible here, the more people will start botting. i remember when i started here 4 months ago, 99.5% of people were saying "there are no bots. no! none! impossible!". now most of the people will say "yes, there are some bots, but gms ban them quite fast". the only thing you are achieving by doing this kind of topic is increasing the panic and general knowledge of the bot population and inviting the bots to come here.
    please realize that before making another pointless forum post.
     
  17. Geltt

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    hehe, ban char which i can make in 1 day? its a good solution for botting? not rly, i make panic? go rune/aden look market what is going on, i dont want know how many orc card they farm it and how much they get adena from them.

    go on post
    https://4gameforum.com/showthread.php?t=23189
    https://4gameforum.com/showthread.php?t=22621

    gl and have fun, live on world and think that bots on core dont exist. ofc when i see bot i make raport it.
    but go mos :) one day you raport, he get ban, make char, same day he is back on making adena, only he must remember that he have to trade whole earned adena to main account to feel safe :)
     
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  18. Pazak

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    hey, everyone!

    i see that you've already got an answer.

    that is a good point.

    actually, we didn't announce this, but recently the penalty for 1st time caught botting was raised to 30 days (instead of 7).

    the penalty for second violation is permanent ban.

    if any botters are reading this,

    we will find you.

    regards,
    pazak
     
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  19. Brofist

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    actually one of my ex cp members who doesn't play any more had his adena removed from game and got an email from a gm that the adena was gained by using 3rd party software and was removed from game. i don't think he was botting, but he sold some stuff on the market. so please don't pretend you know stuff when you know absolutely nothing about what's going on. most of the bots in mos are adena sellers anyway. most of the adena sellers don't have a main game account. if they get banned, they just switch ip, change hwid, level another box and problem solved. it's a business for them and in their business model they expect a certain number of bans and they account for them. what could you possibly do against that?
     
  20. deherch

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    7 days, 30 days? why not immediately perma ban? :( it's not like they botted by accident..
     
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