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Longevity concern

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Ofelin, Apr 27, 2014.

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  1. Ofelin

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    greetings european l2 community,

    i have played l2 since prelude up to kamael era and then decided to call it quits for personal reasons. lately the nostalgia feeling hit me hard and decided to start playing again. long story short, i got hooked. loaded up my balance to get many virtual exp goodies and also purchased 3 months of pa access. after all supporting one of your favorite games is not something to be ashamed about.

    i decided to go with innova as the latency is way lower and they actually care about bots and take actions against them somewhere down the line.

    the servers' population is mediocre at best and so i decided to express my personal concern regarding this tricky game.

    as you all know, l2 is one of the biggest grindfest in the genre. simple yet addictive mechanics. of course it is way easier to exp these days. however a new player who had never played l2 before will have a hard time stomaching the grind in a dated game.

    even if the new players don't mind the grind and decide to give l2 a shot, the game does everything it can to drive the players out of it. you see is not about the levels anymore cause eventually you will see the levels increasing and xp bar moving sooner or later.

    the biggest flaw of the game in my opinion is the drop/adena rates. how the heck a new player is supposed to gear up and have something to look forward to, set up in game goals and progress in a decent time frame.

    heck who am i kidding, the adena income cant even cover the teleport/shots expenses. let alone gearing up.

    generally, i don't buy the "we are the publishers we can change nothing" attitude. get in touch with the developers and let them know the situation. demand a change for the good of your business and player base.

    give us the tools to enjoy the game and we shall enjoy it.

    thank you for taking the time to read my messy topic.
     
  2. piotress

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    lineage ii only becomes a "grind fest" after level 90, anything before that is pretty fast. population is mediocre, as you call it, because unlike ncwest bots and scripts are kept at bay here pretty well. generally when you see a character in game it is a real person and not some bot script which makes innova a more populated server than ncwest.

    you can't blame innova for this, everything you are complaining about was decided and implemented by ncsoft korean headquarters. innova, like ncwest, just hosts the game and has no real control over what gets changed aside from some minor alterations.

    things such as game mechanics, drops and features are all added by ncsoft developers, innova has no say in the matter. the best they can do is submit suggestions to ncsoft korea.
     
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  3. Ofelin

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    i'd rather express my feeling regarding this situations than just say nothing even if it goes in vain :)
     
  4. Elesmira

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    the game is living by a population that was playing the same game for at least 4+ years. indeed the game is not attractive at all to new blood because the koreans do not care for that. the game itself is designed on a way to be more friendly and attractive to people on the other side of the world. asians do not have the same "culture" we have and that affects critically the time they spare on video games...

    but i ll tell you this...

    if the koreans actually cared about how innova's and ncwest's people think about the game or what they want from it they would just adjust the game on their needs (a bit different clients on each update comparing the korean and western one) to attract new people there and make these communities happy.
     
  5. DeepBlue

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    piotress pretty much summed it up, we as hosts have no control over how ncsoft korea decide to develop their game. you can however pose your questions/suggestions to the developers in this thread
     
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  6. BeerWarrior

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    i do think innova could request certain things to be modified if only they wanted to do so.
    let the ncwest serve as an example, many people who moved to core from there claimed that here we have a lot more of drops (items and adena) than they had at ncwest servers. look at them now, they turned into hell of pay-to-win.

    each consecutive chronicle screws us up, less adena drop, less drops, less this, less that, oh wait... more l2store.
    yes, that's it, now that the rose buff has become a normal thing it's a regular source of income to innova.
    event abundance talismans, something that everyone would have bought.

    since innova and ncwest servers are different i believe innova could possibly ask ncsoft to increase certain rates specifically for core, but then they wouldn't be able to compensate for lack of things in-game using l2store as they are able to currently.
     
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  7. Lootus

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    how about if innova would make l2 a bit more competitive by having seasons - ladders and races.

    make new servers open:

    a) long time competition server that ends after 100 persons reach level99.
    b) short time competition servers where you would race from few hours to few weeks or months.

    after the race period the characters in the competitive servers would be transferred to core server with item rewards depending on their position on ladder.

    make these ladders available to be followed from web site. ranks upto 500 would be shown etc.

    best
    ssslice
     
  8. Vonak

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    too many races on path of exil burned your brain men :d
     
  9. BeerWarrior

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    lol nope. no offence but that sounds ridiculously.

    1. school guys would play 18/24, working people would play approx. 3 times less.
    2. it wouldn't be of any benefit to innova unless they could implement l2store on such race servers which would defeat the purpose.
    3. really?
     
  10. ERiPwn

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    i got e very simple and short question , and i demand some reasonable response since u tell us stories that u are not allowed to change gameplay urself

    1.why those powershirts are on l2store , if koreans set them avaible to buy from some ingame npc's?
    2.how is possible that for the purpose of the *bot prevent* and not for the *pay for premium* innova as hoster menaged to remove the posibility to buff urself from adventurier helper if u are awaken char
    3. how is possible that innova made ninja patch on the past where they increased the merchant respawn from 10mins to *randomly 80-90mins*

    okey , so as we see u as innova protect ur rights with so much passions and customer rights ?
     
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  11. Yunalesca

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    wasn't a ninja update, they said it on list it got changed. and on ncwest it changed aswell (there they said 90 minutes).
     
  12. zauliuz

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    this thing with merchants was made to keep digger in craproads and let bs farm in peace in other spots
     
  13. ERiPwn

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    koreans implemented it with our actual patch (episedion ) wich as hole patch arrived like 6 months later from the partial
    patch that they adopted . it was ninja patch that come out of nowhere & no1 knew or had any idea about it .
     
  14. Elesmira

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    ye like digger is a serious threat for bs you think...he can die from 97 people (no matter his multitrilionaire char) if they have the will to fight and if they do he will use ue hero zerk run like chicken use 3000 potions and bring all archers he can find to kill them. give me a break...

    back to topic...

    on west merchants drop half adena than here by the way.
     
  15. iSTOMPquakez

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    u can make a couple of hundred milions a day if u know how to farm ( some are making over a billion )
     
  16. Zebedin

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    if you know how to farm means if i know how i must buy pa and not play solo i guess
     
  17. BeerWarrior

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    good luck doing that solo, full and well organised parties can do that but then the income is split among 7 members.
    of course you can just find a random party and go to crystal caverns and drop r99 weapon but i wouldn't call it "hundred milions a day".
     
  18. Zebedin

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    they wont even sell this weapon in 1month xd
     
  19. Ashe99

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    how to make 1 bilion in 1 day ? ask analion or amethys boting since tauti update in antharas lair , mos , .. and atm evrywhere ... we posting videos of bots here but no one of gm give fck of it, i reported boters in mos already 5 times evry person , and any time i go there they still there just changing, atm in core server is 3 bots working properly and even multic accs as well so in 1 pc u can log 50 accs, insted of reports since 5 days they all time there, maybe ask them they will tell u how make 1 bil in 1 day and making real money since play l2.. when gmrs working hard to kicking bots, and when u go on game and wrote /gmlist no one of them is up , thsts it of this ****
     
  20. BeerWarrior

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    the amount of the dumbs in your post exceeds the capacity of my "dumbholder", i should consider buying a spare cup to my dumbholder for such events.

    1. been to mos or to loa since epeisodion update?
    2. /gmlist shows the gm's who choose to be visible, most of them choose to be invisible thus more effective.
    3. that english, a word soup.
    4. no, you can't log 50 accounts on from one pc, unless you use vm but that's highly unstable.
    5. ok, i got a spare dumholder cup, you now can reply.
     
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