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Tyrr duelist can aoe?

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  1. gothic84

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    hi,

    im comming back to game after break. and i have to decide which path to take.

    tyrr dn or titan is much better in aoe than tyrr duelist without polearm mastery?

    tyrr titan has dual weapon mastery, so can he use duals sword, or it is much better to use 2 handed sword?

    tyrr dueslit has nothing to do with polearms, so can he aoe at all? its like dagger with pole?
     
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    any tyrr can aoe fine due to the high p atk.

    tyrr titan is best for dmg with normal hits. (rage + frenzy)

    tyrr dn is best for crowd control with 9 sec low cd stuns and can pull starting at 85 (while other tyrrs get provoke only 97). but can also decrease resist to poles, helping himself and others tyrrs with pole to do more dmg.

    pole increase aoe power skills on tyrrs. also superior weapon mastery has pole mastery included in it for all tyrrs, its just tyrr dn/titan/maestro got a 2nd pole mastery.

    one little advice, do buy a pole for aoe parties, no matter what. it's very stupid when i see tyrr duelist or kavatari with fists or dual swords in soh/gf aoe, really ( cause u might aswell take wynn to pull). even apocalypse pole will do with good element.
     
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    aaa, i missed that superior weapon mastery has pole advantages also.

    and what aobut titan using dualsword? he lacks only 1 mastery, but gains 25% hp from duals.


    and finally, there are differences between tyrrs. i checked all hero tyrrs stats from last month, they are almost the same, is there a real difference on oly or small pvp between tyrrs, or those differences are more like cosmetic changes?
     
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    cant say much for titans, indeed hp is a big advantage for tyrr (actually for most classes, hp is quite important but tyrr has the biggest hp pool in the game). anyways duals for the health should be ok, just that with 2handed sword u have better dmg on normal hits, but skill dmg would be almost same. not much skilled titans around to give a real feedback on the matter.

    u dont see the stats, u must check their passives and skills. for oly and small pvp the diference is quite big cause while most tyrrs are good 1vs1, some are just better at handling certain type of class.

    duelists are great vs mages cause of burst dps/passive m crit dmg reduction,

    titans are great vs daggers cause of guts 200% p def + debuff protection for 1 minute.

    dns are good at stalling enemy, but have problems vs players immune to debuffs. if debuffs land, ur enemy is screwed. -spear resist, - defense, stun spams.

    tyrant has best pve totem for dmg, best p def/mdef/hp/speed around ~20% more than other classes(also totem) and biggest atk speed but fists are weak for pvp.

    doombringer has added pvp dmg, 30 secs m def /p def icnrease buff and the good old rush impact, stun spams.

    maestro has crafting, id say maestro has the cosmetic change!

    anyways its better if u look into the skills http://l2wiki.com/awakening

    check for all tyrrs (theres links below the page) and check for levels 85 and 99 where u seeall the diferent skills pretty much.
     
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  5. Elesmira

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    best tyrr eu strikes again to share his lights with the rest of the uncivilised world
     
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    give me tauti and ill give you a planet, a tiny planet
     
  7. gothic84

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    what about dualsword?

    is there a difference between r90 enchanted to equals p atak with r95 and r95 dualsword?

    double sa increases pvp p atak more than single sa?

    i checked amount of gems r needed to put double sa to r95 and its huge.
     
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    yeah, i think the second sa gives 5% more pvp dmg, so both together - 10%.
     
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    r95 with x2sa > r99 with 1 sa.
     
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    seen some dreadnoughts using even s80 polearms + pvp, easy to augument, enchant and damage is also pretty nice
     
  11. gothic84

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    ok, so this is clear.

    last thing.
    adena drop from mobs is like *^&%&^&$, dont know if it is enough for shots;/

    what is best to do for adena? are there some instances worth to do?
    lvl 87+
     
  12. walkingcat

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    zaken, freya, after hitting 90lv make quest chain on magmeld, u might get some adenas. dunno just do ur ordinary dailies like kartia tere soa farm in s3, fairy and lvl up. afaik there is no special place to farm adenas.
     
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    what about tyrr duelist using tallum*dark legion for pvp?

    +4 gives 15% hp, 20% mp and 30% cp, which is great, +4 also add pvp dmg (dont know how many) and also pvp for fame (also dont know how many). someone has tested if it is ok to use s duals instead of let's say apo 2 sa?

    how big is the dmg difference from the skills?
     
  14. sh1ny

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    never tested it with duelist + tallum/dle,but for dn the difference between s80 and r99 is negligible.
     
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