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Experiment 99 Hellfire Seed Talisman and skill enchantment

Discussion in 'Latest Experiments' started by Pazak, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. Pazak

    Pazak Innova Group

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    [item modification][other game mechanics aspects]

    aden. lots of shops and signs with "riot"
    people pass them by and no one panics.
    here's some stuff for those who are, like, tired.
    explaining - god forbid - the game mechanics.

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    purpose: to find out how hellfire seed talisman affects skill damage.

    experiment: iss hierophant lv.99 attacked aeore evas saint lv.99 using mass crippling attack lv.8, death strike lv.8 and mass shadow blade lv.8. during this experiment, we checked the bonus of hellfire seed talisman that provides +1% to physical skill attack. then compared the increase with increase given by enchanted duel skill from +7 to +8. iss hierophant lv.99 was equipped with a weapon with no attribute, and aeore evas saint had no armor. the results of the experiment are presented in the table below.


    skills​

    no buff​

    full buff​

    mass crippling attack lv.8​

    1283/2567​

    1458/2917​

    death strike lv.8​

    1660/3320​

    1835/3671​

    mass shadow blade lv.8​

    1443/2886​

    1618/3237​
       

    mass crippling attack lv.8 +talisman - hellfire​

    1308/2617​

    1486/2972​

    death strike lv.8 + talisman - hellfire​

    1689/3378​

    1866/3733​

    mass shadow blade lv.8 + talisman - hellfire​

    1470/2940​

    1647/3294​
       

    mass crippling attack lv.8 + 7 duel​

    1577/3155​

    1753/3451​

    death strike lv.8+ 7 duel​

    2070/4141​

    2246/4492​

    mass shadow blade lv.8 + 7 duel​

    1752/3505​

    1927/3855​
       

    mass crippling attack lv.8 + 8 duel​

    1602/3202​

    1777/3555​

    death strike lv.8 + 8 duel​

    2105/4211​

    2281/4562​

    mass shadow blade lv.8 + 8 duel​

    1780/3561​

    1956/3912​
    conclusion: as you can see, we did not make a series of hits with a condition of our skills enchanted to +7 and usage of hellfire seed talisman. we only need to see the difference in the increase of damage between enchantment levels and between using talisman and not. as you can see from the numbers in the table, there is no difference between these boosts. this means that there is no difference in damage increase from duel skill enchanted to +8 and +7 duel + using hellfire seed talisman. answering your question, with is the same (within the error limits a unique system of rounding fractional numbers in the game that we all love). answering your question, what is the best choice of these two options, we would like to remind you that +1% to physical skill attack is not the only bonus that is granted by this talisman. we would like to add that this conclusion only actual for skills enchanted for duel when difference in enchantment equals 1.
     
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  2. zauliuz

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    i dont understand nothing at all what and why you did there... ~30dmg more with talisman..
     
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  3. troomar

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    wow, thanks a lot :)

    svoloc: it explains a lot of things, for example: getting a hellfire talisman is much cheaper than enchanting all offensive skills form +7 to +8 - because that's what you will get with the talisman. moreover, +1 enchant = +1 % pvp dmg and it is not obvious from the description. in the description you could see only increase in power, but you didn't know it is 1 % of pvp dmg. you can make out other implications by yourself :)
     
  4. zauliuz

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    with this logic... get pvp belt skill atack. 5% skill dmg more, get sa on weapon, 5% more.. so you no need oe skills at all.. and in the end iss is not pvp char. ok for oly it's one of the best. just need good items and knowledge what and when to do.
    better make same tests with tyrr warriors.. how their p.atk or w/e increase their skill damage. it's just sugestion for future tests. cuz iss.. who care about iss..
     
  5. DeepBlue

    DeepBlue Head Moderator (EU) Head moderator

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    guys stay on topic - this is not the riot thread go there if u want to discuss that.
     
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