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Reflect Damage ruins whole gameplay

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Razzly, Sep 26, 2014.

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  1. Razzly

    Razzly Banned

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    hi guys,

    am i only me that thinks that this **** is killing pvp? when enemy himself deals less damage than reflected damage from my skills?

    it's so sick to die from myself while tyran/healer etc cant event touch me. needless to say when you attack stacked tyrr with 100k hp + 50k cp with his rebirth it give over 200k to be beated. while reflect is around 20% it means it reflects more than i have cp/hp lol!

    what's your opinion?
     
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  2. Yunalesca

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    play a summoner. you wont run into this problem (but u will run into other issues..)

    tyrr warrior has few strenghts on him in the way its working in this server anyway, their dmg comes from having +10 enchanted skills while having to play defensive for the most part. hp+reflect is their source of consistent damage. you must invest on damage reflect resistance.

    healer requires too good gear to do decent damage, they can still be 1-2shoted by some dds, so it's all about chaining skills/debuffs at proper time (50% hp~) to kill them before they kill you.
     
  3. SnoWyz

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    stop playing.
     
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  4. SentencedToBlues

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    good sugestion, prehaps u should too!
     
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  5. Hax

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    passive reflect resist
     
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  6. Razzly

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    well there is some misunderstanding like healer having passive and active reflect when he goes out and what he does is healing himself and i kill myself :d

    wynns has been denied long time ago because they do stable dps and cannot kill enemy withing 2-5 sec. i haven't seen wynn on pvp for a loooong time.

    you say invest in reflect resist... hmm except active skill what else left? 10 points from talisman?
     
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  7. SnoWyz

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    nah, i'm fine here, not like you that left with the tail between the legs.
     
  8. Yunalesca

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    talisman longing goes to 30% resist reflect , theres the active talisman from fort/castle that for 30 seconds gives 5% reflect resist. active skill gives around 20% i think, the level 3 one.

    mysterious belt/ruler's authority gives aditional 5% reflect resist. then u have the giant's reflect reist from dual, 100% reflect resist for 30 secs..but 10min cooldown.

    it's a big investment and worst is that is gamble, but it pretty much sums up how to counter these guys the most eficiently and safest way.
     
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  9. Surprised

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    i'm pvping in every free moment, and i'm a wynn :d
     
  10. Nyweris

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    the last survivor of his kind, soon rerolling to dagermage on artheya xd
     
  11. Surprised

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    ^^ no way, i won't reroll, especially on ertheia :d
     
  12. a4se.

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    tyrrs/healers are easy, lets say about tanks with 3rd class skill reflect + passive reflect + active reflect + tezza. if he is stacked in eq. he can go out of box to middle of arena and go afk, cubic will heal him (wow healer on back) and you will kill yourself on fis reflect in 4/5 skills when playing yul/dagger. fights on olympiad should be dynamic full of action, one way to win fs heal/tyrr/tank with pasive + active reflect is to hit one or two times and run when you can... or you get open arena then gg.
    tanks - alsmot 80% reflect dmg
    tyrrs - 1 bilion hp + rebirth... when have reflect gg
    healer if pasive + active standing on middle arena and just heal himself to win.

    wow wow such skilled classes
     
  13. iSTOMPquakez

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    o shut it already bots,ure clueless
     
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  14. Lirialia

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    most stacked reflect comes from a tank with da reflect.

    20% da reflect
    20% active augment reflect
    20% passive augment reflect
    10% tank passive with heavy armour reflect
    5% tezza necklace

    so the most stacked reflect someone can have is 75%.

    if you get passive resist reflect and active resist reflect and at least a desire tallisman, you turn that 75% into 11%.
    so your problem is pretty much solved.

    ps: l2p
     
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  15. Razzly

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    im sorry but you aren't a threat to anyone unless its mass pvp (cleanses deny you).

    going back to reflect:

    feoh skill arcane barrier works also with reflect. this damage does not hit into hp/cp and takes only 10% from mana, but it reflect 100% damage back to me. what the hell? not enough?

    fully agree with a4se... you can be even a ***** while playing but having tyrr with all hp passives from ap, +15 con and 2 reflect and daggers, yulls, feohs are killing theirselves :d

    i really wonder where koreans have their brain to invent such a thing?
     
  16. RedWind

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    that's true
    this is nice but not when you're fighting againts them on class oly xd
    pros lt
     
  17. Negnal

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    how to win vs full 75% reflect tank? step:
    1. play ertheia mage (sayha)
    2. reach lvl 99
    3. one time hit tank
    4. run on hide rest of time
    5. say "gg easy" and claim your 10 points
     
  18. Kiss.

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    passive reflect is ~18%
    one sonata give additional 10%
     
  19. Blejd

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    pvp dmg resist applies to dmg incoming but dont reduce damage reflected - for me (including transfer pain talisman) it is like ~83,4% (with coc belt and castle cloak without pvp elements) so with pvp elements u can hit even 100%+
     
  20. Kiss.

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    who was talking about pvp ressist :eek:.
    i see conversation about reflect ressist.
     
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