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Experiment 113 Dual class passive skill

Discussion in 'Latest Experiments' started by Pazak, Nov 27, 2014.

  1. Pazak

    Pazak Innova Group

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    purpose: to distinguish how dual – physical attribute increase passive and dual – mental attribute increase passive affect othell adventurer: [​IMG] shadow chase, [​IMG] dark paralysis, [​IMG] power bluff.

    experiment: othell adventurer lvl.99 attacks iss dominator lvl.99, using [​IMG] shadow chase, [​IMG] dark paralysis, [​IMG] power bluff. we did 500 uses for each skill. to make the results more detailed we divided them into 5 pieces 100 uses each. we had to use blessed antharas earring for iss dominator, as success rate for some skill is 90%, which is the maximum rate. because of that, we had to increase the target's resistance to lower this chance and be able to see the effect of passives.

    othell adventurer's equipment
    eternal light set
    eternal jewelry set
    full buff + warriors harmony

    iss dominator's equipment
    eternal magic set
    eternal jewelry set
    full buff + wizards harmony
    blessed antharas earring

    the results of the experiment are in the table below.

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    as it is seen from the results, passive skills have very limited effect upon these skills. unfortunately, we could not successfully land [​IMG] power bluff a single time during the experiment. we were puzzled by this fact, and decided to clarify the mechanics of this skill with the developer.
     
  2. golemka

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    may miss some jewelry ...
     
  3. procc

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    conclusion - these dual skill's does not work at all...
     
  4. Relic

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    no its just that power bluff is broken skill which needs fix asap and increase from dual skills is very little and only epic jewels will help you to land those skills
     
  5. Elyath

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    ty a lot for this is the test i've requested,
    as it seems yes those skills are useless,
    and about powerbluff is an already know fact that it never lands on anything.
     
  6. Seivlas

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    a dwarf dagger -may be another class than fs, due to chaos essence- landed power bluff twice (turn your back to offer a nice target) in a single coc on me t.t
    i feel so bad after seeing the experiment results on its landing rate
     
  7. Vonak

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    maybe just enchanting bluff to +1 greatly increase the landrate like in old chronicle where skill enchant was increasing skill level.
    was the bluff enchanted?

    cause power bluff +0 is completely useless, even on 10 level lower chars.
     
  8. Zizka

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    my power bluff +10 works just fine... on mobs :)
    on players there is a small chance to turn him around so his back is towards me.
     
  9. DemoOn

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    it wont, soul aq, istina earring, soul tezza, blessed zaken and bluff stil wont land, that skill has never been working for very long, and i doubt that devs dont know about it. same as single dagger and dual dagger mastery, i am still not convinced those two skills work (heard many times that single dagger mastery works for duals, and dev's dont care about it), so truth to be told, you cant count on tests as well, as the setup of every char is different, could be break points depending on con etc, you will get tired trying to work out and there is no perfect formula of success for genuine non donating person
     
  10. Vonak

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    yeaz have +10 bluff and it lands and turn ppl back. that's a fact
     
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  11. Seivlas

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    clearly it does. i don't have the top jewels, and i don't know who was my opponent (coc), but i can clearly say that bluff lands. i cannot give you some landrate numbers, as i didn't make tests.
     
  12. Elyath

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    i can say you that i'm 98 with qa soul ring,istina normal earring,frintezza soul necklage and blessed zaken,
    i've tried to land powerbluff on swampland mobs(lv 85?),
    and powebluff(+0 enchant) landed 1/10?

    so it's clearly a not working skill,
    or is there any bugs that require you to enchant it to +10 make it works whatever is your equip/level.

    developers should answer this.
     
  13. Norekien

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    othell wind rider 99 (being dwarf it that changes anything) 0 epics, coc stun and mental earring, seraph rings and octavis necklace warrior.
    power bluff +5 and landing well as heck, even on syra, medix, jik, cursed and some more ppl with good gear so, enchant it +5, i don't remember the dyes at that othell so i can't tell, i think i had str there, but +3-2 nothing really good.
     
  14. BloodDivine

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    power bluff is not a stun attack (i mean that it doesn't get influenced by stun jewels nor physical trait, blame korea for that i know it sounds stupid). enchanting it to even +5 helps a lot

    and this dualclass skills are not useless, not at all. it's a good option if u miss jewels that gives u stun/mental attack/resist
     
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  15. vvvlm

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    yeasz has 0 problem landing bluff even on high geared targets. live with ur update ppl bluff is good since ertheia
     
  16. Vonak

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    yep but only overenchanted bluff is good.
    i tryed 10 +0 bluff at 99 versus 85 box iss wc event items, 0/10 landed.