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Tyrr Doombringer. Maximazing stun chance?

Discussion in 'Tyrr Warrior' started by Buster_Bunny, Jan 20, 2015.

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  1. Buster_Bunny

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    hello, guys! is it good idea to maximize stun chance for db? or it is fails anyway on high levels and better go for hp (def) and use 'rush impact' to be close with your enemy during the battle (sorry for my english :()?
     
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    my "opinion" : no, don't max your stun chance ! it's useless !!!
    my honest opinion : stun chance is op. stack it as much as you can, the rush impact stun works really well, especially in mass pvp (where 99% of ppl won't have +160% resist stun)
     
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    ty for the answer!:)

    is it true that shock = stun?:confused: is frintezza's soul necklace increases 'rush impact' success chance? what epic accessoriess the best choice for the db? antharas' earring, queen ant's soul ring, zaken's earring?

    is this skill from dualclass 'dual - physical trait increase' increases 'rush impact' success chance?
     
  4. Sanek

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    well, if you check, regular frintezza's necklace's description says "mp +42, sleep/paralysis/stun resistance +15%, sleep/paralysis/stun attack rate +15%, poison/bleed resistance +25%, poison /bleed attack rate +25%. decreases skill cooldown. damage reflect effect. increases dark resistance." therefore i suppose it's just the translation. as far as i am concerned it's same thing, especially that no other jewels i know (or buffs) seem to have 'shock' in description.
     
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    yes, every stun and etc.
     
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    shock = stun, no doubt about it, probably it's a mistranslation that's left.



    best set of jewels if you want to stun ppl around:
    blessed antharas (+40% success rate compared to 30% other earrings, also big bonuses in defensive stats )
    istina earring (or blessed zaken if you feel like you don't have problems on mdef)
    blessed tezza
    soul aq ring
    soul baium


    budget tyrr choice (way more common)
    blessed zaken (1/8 of price of blessed antharas but way less pdef/mdef),
    istina earring,
    soul tezza (it's not option to use normal tezza, you'll die even more often to mages, you can put istina necklace here, it's cheaper and gives you some stats you need, but not stun bonus)
    soul aq,
    one mdef ring (beleth or istina or octavis, for around 1/3rd of the price of soul baium)

    yes.
     
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    this is only true for lower/average tier clans. stun resist is more dominant than stun power ( there is also more debuff resist than land rate added aswell trhough items/buffs), therefore if anybody has 30~40% more stun res compared to ur power of stun rate, you will not land aoe stuns most of time.
     
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    i never noticed that :d
     
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    make a test vs a player with same stun jewels as you, but he must be fully buffed, have saya resist + hunter talis + clan skills + pvp pot stun res + dual certificate physical res/power + ap stun+ set with stun res. hair acessory with stun resist and jewels with aug resist is bonus.

    the only way to counter so much stun res is by having coc buff along with boost+power provoke over +7 and knight + 10 chance stun. and it must be outside oly.


    another thing is that you might not have noticed is due to baium soul ring still being much rarer than many other jewels while providing a turn around betwen not landing stuns or landing them most of time. (qa soul is quite popular these days, however the 2nd slot is either saved for beleth or istinas/octavis ring).
     
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    this will be fixed in 2 updates ( the one after infinity odyssey, i forgot the name, shadow something ), when my thunder storm will be enchantable for chance ( now you can't enchant it at all :d ). back on the discussion - when in oly, you don't have the clan skills and pots, so it's mostly about having a baium ring or not. sad thing is that when you have exactly the same jewels, masteries and so on inside oly, the stun chance is around ~30%. if one of the players is missing even one jewel, mastery or ap, the stun is perma.

    p.s. i was trolling in my previous reply :d
     
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    i didnt think of it as trolling, considering ur gear and continuous play on the warlord xd and since only a few tyrrs can rly say " i can stun several ppl on sieges from top clans at low re-use", id find it true that u can pretty much stun most ppl from top clans.

    yea, i read something about extending thunder storm and i guess you mean the route add/changes for it are for chance (i havent read which routes are for thunder storm). to me definitely makes huge diference baium or not, its the line of landing nothing to landing everything >< but also this enchant thing worries me, as sabotin in rochand forums mentioned that the value for each +1 in enchants will be diferent on some skills, so for example we could be seeing a "nerf" on boost and power provoke stun power till +10 or a boost..who knows..or the same :p

    but the issue for now still lies, as you said inside oly is around 30%, but outside where such class with amazing cc can fall off due to the insane amount of stun resist provided (when ur oponents have same gear ofc).

    (hey at least the knockdowns land).
     
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    thanks for yours answers! it was really helpful.
     
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