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Cutter OE or not OE

Discussion in 'Class Discussion' started by Shatten, Mar 23, 2015.

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  1. Shatten

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    hi! i'm buying a cutter apo with health for pvp. i need to know if i need to have this sword over enchant. or better wait a specter?
     
  2. Living Legend

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    give me your char name i have apo blessed with 2 sa +6 selling it cheap
     
  3. Shatten

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    i do not have enough money even for that. i wanted to know if buying a normal to health or expect to have more money. ^^
    sorry for my english
     
  4. NeoTiger

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    i guess you are playing a tank so keep your apocalypse cutter with health sa and use your adena for something else.

    whatever the cutter you are using, your main role in pvp is to substain damage, keep alive your party and crowd control the enemy. you are not here to smash people.
     
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  5. AirX.

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    as a lv 92 sigel who also asked for advices, i'd suggest to invest your "weapon budget" on getting a nice and solid apo cutter.

    -you totally need health sa;
    -then you really need at least 150 atribute (looks like there is no better one, i'd suggest wind if you go hunt in s3, but it does not really make all that difference);
    -then you might want to consider getting it +4 for the nice accuracy and crit rate bonuses (as well as more patk);
    -eventually, if you really have some spare money and want to be the very best and catch'em all, might as well throw like 100kk and get it blessed, even though that's more about "status" than actual being a worth investment;
    -last of all, you can afford and/or grind it, the second sa is the ultimate perk you can get, the main problem is soul crystal range from 180-220kk according to the colour.

    of course along this long journey you will have to also think about atri crystals to get 300 element, but i would not say it's a priority and you might as well just throw one once in a while when you get enough stones to get a cry at the atribute manager in rune/aden.

    the main reason about this is that tank is not meant to deal much damage, and even if setup properly for dps still the damage comes mostly from skills and critical hits, not base attack damage. this means that yes, ofc specter/amaranthine weapons will have higher patk=dps, but they also cost not only like 3 times for clean item, but also multiple times for sa and, if you want, blessing them.

    just for comparison, +4 blessed apo cutter health i think would cost around 400kk if you follow market carefully, and adding the 2ns sa may vary around 200-250kk according again to market fluctuations and which sa you want; on the other hand, clean r95 cutter from fresh drop is sold alone for 500kk, if you were to add first sa on your own it would cost 140kk just for r gemstone and there is also the crystal (no idea about the price though). i will not even mention the cost of 2nd sa since 1249 gem-r are needed, nor for getting it blessed. you would need like a mortgage to get the same bonuses of the apocalypse, and all for a comparably miserable 100patk bonus (which, i remind you, influences skill and thus overall damage very little).

    this quite in-depth analysis works particulary well for tanks, whose role is to soak damage and therefore would be good to go with c grade health weapon, expecially if you usually go party hunting, where other people take care about dps.


    my wet dream though is +4 blessed apo avenger crit. dmg + focus, more raid/1v1/oly focused but man, those sweet juicy knight frenzy crits!
     
  6. Yunalesca

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    if it was to improve weapon, id rather make it apo cutter health + haste first than to put it blessed or +4. 1,2k-1,3k atk speed on pvp is rly nice, with all the blinks/target cancel, you wanna land skills as fast as possible. the p atk is mostly only for pve, which as a tank, u wont be soloing till 97 at least. and the 2nd sa alrdy adds dmg to pvp.
     
  7. Shatten

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    i have the wrong forum. i am healer
     
  8. AirX.

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    that wasn't what i expected lol
     
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  9. QUinter

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    for pve ? :d since when tank patk ever matters on pve .. i would say patk matters for tank only on oly for to win by dmg agains like other tank .. or unless u're going solo pvp outside but still pve :) on pve nobody cares if tank uses shots or not , don't even ask if weapon is c gr or just app :d
     
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