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DE or LE?

Discussion in 'Aeore Healer' started by Alina Valkyrie, Apr 21, 2015.

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  1. Alina Valkyrie

    Alina Valkyrie User

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    good day people.
    so, i have no xp playing aeore. i did my homework searching about the differences between aeore classes, but i've found very few info about about races.
    i have a nice clan and i will have almost all the time an active cp, so my aim is group play most of the time(pve for now, barely just started, pvp in the further future ofc :d )
    i'm not really planning to ever compete in oly.
    i really really dislike how human mages look like (maybe sounds shallow, but there it is :p )
    so i'm between dark elf and light elf.
    i did read somewhere de is better for soloing stuff, but i wont do that too much, anything beside that that criteria? and elves have more cast and skill re-use and i can afford more focusing on con dyes than wit? and l. elves have more men also.
    so far from my view, l. elves seems like better healers in matter stats? or what am i missing from de side?
    i have already a main de yul, but if light elf are better for race stats for healer i don't mind having 2 chars instead of dual class.

    what;s your advice?


    best regards,
    alina
     
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  2. Seivlas

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    hello.

    in 1v1 situation (as in og, even if you mentionned not to focus on it), de has a upper hand. she has a self target rebirth and a skill that has a vampiric spell included, allowing you to deal dmg while "healing" (your heals will still be mandatory) you a little. i'd say that in mass pvp, le has better cd (so more brilliant purges), while in solo (and pve) de is better. there was a post in this same question summing up the pro and con of the different healers.

    note that the next chronicle is coming, and the de skill seems to be really good, while the le one... well... idk, it may be good, or may just be a skill not even worthy of a shortcut slot. (de skill : buff that rebirth the player that has it if he dies while the buff is on; le skill : a tree.)

    edit : https://4gameforum.com/threads/difference-between-races-for-healer.22085/ here
     
  3. Alina Valkyrie

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    hi, ty for the reply. i just read the future skills, the barrier from ss does sound much better than es tree..now i'm thinking: light elf ss?(chaos essence) i'm mainly curious about race base stats for healer between these 2 races. if there are any significant con/pros
     
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    if you're not willing to og, i'd go le --> ss (wit is really good, especially when you'll most likely use an health weapon (meaning no acumen)). the int increases slightly your healing power, but imo not worth it when compared to wit impact.
     
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  5. Alina Valkyrie

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    (wit is really good, especially when you'll most likely use an health weapon (meaning no acumen)
    nice, this is the kind of advice i was looking for. i honestly never thought of using weapon w/o acumen :d

    if anyone has more add to add would be cool, ty
     
  6. SnoWyz

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    choose dark elf, keep prophecy of wind.
     
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  7. Ronove

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    here's my point of view:

    you first pick the race, then you pick the class.

    if you want to be strong olympiad player in future -> dark elf, 100%, no choice.
    if you don't care about olympiad -> well okay, do you care about having prophecy of wind?
    if yes then make dark elf and take care when learning new skills at 85.
    if no then you don't need dark elf, you don't need any of the advantages it gives you. it doesn't mean you have to make light elf, just the advantages from dark elf will not be useful for you. (edit: on the other hand, dark elf bonuses may be good for your other class, main or dual, for example if you want feoh, or fighter, you will have highest str and int, for other classes, not a big deal.)

    i wouldn't worry about cast speed honestly, frantic healing basically solves most of the problem that comes with low wit and/or non-acumen weapons...

    when you have the race matter figured out, you have plenty of time to think about which class you want, chaos essence makes that easy.
     
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    nice input. ty so much!
    now i can see benefits of a de also. keeping pow looks actually good, pretty beneficial for myself and group.
    also, i did not know about frantic healing since i do not know all skills of awakened healer yet. and doing more search now i saw ss also has better mana support for party.

    this was a great help, looking to de much more now.

    one more thing i'm curios about: why people never consider stats like men when talking about choosing a race?de has less men than l.elf. it's the difference between them not so important?

    (and yes, you have a good point also about dual class, since i was actually thinking to make it with feoh dual )
     
  9. Seivlas

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    men is not a stat mage classes are looking for (feohs still avoid the +5 int -4 men for obvious reasons) because of 2 reasons :
    -there are more important stats as a mage (iirc, the sum of wit, men and int give the same amount regardless of the class, meaning that if you've less men, your wit+int will be higher than the wit+int of a char that has more men). as a healer, wit is important (cast, crit rate), and as a feoh, int is mandatory.
    -men increases your mdef. that's good. but healers/feohs already have a really nice mdef because of 3 points : their men is way higher than the men of fighters. their armor mastery gives a ****load of mdef. their tunic and stocking add some mdef.

    (as for dual, i advice a de archmage for pve, de soultaker for pvp)
     
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  10. Alina Valkyrie

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    i see, that's good because i already started my se for pow :d
    you have been a great help, thank you!
    i'll focus on healer for a while and make more research of feoh later.
     
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  11. AgentLiza

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    Why everyone speak about pow?Did something changed?Sorry for asking i am new!
     
  12. Seivlas

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    The big difference is that PoW has an increase in magic critical damage (unless it's critical rate, don't have the description under my eyes atm), while other healers will have the awakened buff (which is weaker).

    That's why people tend to prefer a DE, because they can keep PoW.

    Btw, there is nothing wrong in asking something you don't know.
     
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    so the new buff(from awaken) is the same exacly except the magic critical dmg?speed decrease?
     
  14. Preslav

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    It is pretty simple actually, if you are awakened as aeore shillien saint, keep your pow. You won't use the new buff anywhere, because iss enchanters are buffing over it with the same buff but higher level; for olympiad you will either use olympiad manager's drum or your pow. So best is awakening as shillien saint and keeping pow, 20% m critical damage is invaluable for nuker parties, which I am saying from experience, being feoh as main and heal with pow as dual. Later you could always change your healer with chaos essence, and still keeping pow!
     
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