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Discussion in 'Class Discussion' started by Switzer, May 6, 2015.

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  1. Switzer

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    hey guys im thinking to make a summoner (not sure wich one but probably es) and im not really sure if he's worth to play.
    for example: ill be able to find a party?
    ill be useful for my party?
    ill be able to kill someone in pvp? mass or solo?
    i really wish that someone who got experiance on this class can give me a serius answer to my silly questions. (yes sorry for my bad english)
     
  2. NobleSpirit

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    well there is exacly the same thread if u search maybe u will find smth usefull:p
     
  3. Switzer

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    true there is one more topic but i didnt saw someone that he sayed something about the pvp as a summoner.
    also wanna see opinions and for annother summoner classes =). but i was wrong cuz on title i wrote (es). thank you anyway cuz i read useful things in your thread and also answered in my party questions ^^
     
  4. NobleSpirit

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    i found those 2 vids one for es and one for warlock.summoners seem to be doing decent dmg with buff till lvl 60 with nukes but i guess they will not have much dmg later,still when we get our buff servitors it should get interesting :)



     
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    thank you mate, i hope didn't took you too long to find them. seems they are strong not really sure wich summoner ill choose to play :p
     
  6. lHuggyBear

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    if you want pvp summoner then pick necro.
     
  7. dty//

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    in korea/ru were no cat queen/seraphim/nightshade summons added, i wouldn't expect them anytime soon, if they will be added it takes at least 1,5 years for us to get them
     
  8. NobleSpirit

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    if we start from 1.0 how long u think it will take to get to 2.0?
     
  9. Master Hao

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    6 months+ ?
     
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    are summoners still the red headed step child of ncsoft? ranging from the pvp nerf due to the olympiad, combo buffs making warrior/mage banes useless for a whole chronicle, to constant exp drains from summons in party, i never got the feeling that ncsoft cared for the summoner class. has this changed at all in the recent years? are summon weapon types still classified as blunt types? making focus/sws/bd buffs more or less useless to them?
     
  11. dty//

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    summons never drained party exp after c1/2....
     
  12. Nayuki

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    you as the owner of the summon lost anywhere from 5-30% of your total exp gain. this definitely still an active mechanic even in c4. you can find plenty of threads on the official forums talking about it.
     
  13. dty//

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    you said party exp, summons take personal exp, which is not party exp.
     
  14. fagercraft

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    summons in classic:

    +gets masters buffs.
    +stays forever unthil death (yes that includes relog)
    +costs spirit ore 1 time when summoning only.
    +doesnt have 6h cooldown pre lvl40.
    +takes 0% xp (theres still the one summon that takes 90% xp thou for atleast necro)
    -warsmith+da takes 15% xp and costs crystals for summoning.
    -no petshots exists yet
    -no party pets exist yet
    -phanter afaik does not have cancel

    im fairly certain they also retained all the hp/stat buffs etc they got during the chronicles before. im basing this on most skills are the same as they are in god. the skills that are changed from god are usually well discussed (like vr) and known, and i have during the last year of checking up on l2classic since korea release never seen 1 post about a change to summons.
     
  15. Quaak

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    im actually also considering to play a summoner once the server goes live.
    im still debating about phantom summoner or warlock.

    if anyone could clarify some stuff from russian classic it would be much appreciated.
    does phantom summoner have death spike in classic or no?
    how well does the warlock binding cubic work?
    is cubic attack dependent on attack speed?

    anyone who can tell me about these things will win 1000 internets.
     
  16. MAGiukstis

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    if you know ru then this video is useful.
     
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    wk would have a cat buff 30% crit dmg or i am mistaken a lot ?
     
  18. fagercraft

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    those party buff summons do not exist.. yet. (confirmed not in on any patchnotes for either age of war or age of splendor)

    no death spike yet.
    no idea on cubics in pvp, to expensive for pve. sry.
     
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    so cubics take crystals or ores?
    i think my choice is going to stay with warlock nonetheless.
    ps is a pvp beast, but not without death spike, so...

    how good is the poison skill?
    is it a viable dps skill for farming or not since its not dependent on spiritshots.

    is a summoner a good party char?
    my guess is i should be welcomed in melee partys since the summon damage is pretty good?

    what about pvp? cubics work well in pvp or almost never?
    phantom summoners cubics are alot better then warlock though....spark and hex cubic are really good.
     
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  20. Fragola

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    ...exping my way to become es on ru classic.... lvl 37 at the moment...

    cubics take ores

    finding a party isn't a problem until lvl 40, when you become useless comparing to sps or any other mage with second-prof aoe nuke/dot.
    summon damage is pretty good, but i can't find any melee party that would want me after lvl 40

    water cubic works pretty good in pvp (but no crits) according to this video:

    (very detailed about the skills and damage es makes in pvp (from 21:07), merrow stats)

    cubics require spellbook to learn. es learn healing cubic without the book and water cubic requires a spellbook
     
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