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Speed against Power

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Summer_Rous, Dec 3, 2011.

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  1. Summer_Rous

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    for those who weren't for 100% sure what mage class to play, you might want to read this info. i am going to compare 2 very important magical races; dark elves and light elves

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    elf mystic stats and racial skills.

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    dark elf stats and racial skills.

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    now knowing this all, it should be easy to explain a few things.
    *-*attention, those are not exact numbers*-*
    let's start with some easy maths.
    if a has 6 speed and b has 4 speed. a is 1/3 faster than b (a has an advantage)
    if a has 4 power and b has 6 power. b is 1/3 stronger than a (b has and advantage)

    no mater how strong you might hit, it is the speed that wins over the power. in a larger scale a would have used 60 spells at that time b would have used 40 spells.
    not to mention the possibility of interruption and the possibility of magical critical hit.

    conclusion. spell singer is a wonderful mage class with a lot of advantages over other mages.
     
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  2. MontanaMax

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    ofc.dont forget how often sps makes m.crit too.
     
  3. Vivinia

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    they're both inferior to kamael mage, if the player behind the character will do one neat trick after awakening.
     
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  4. Summer_Rous

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    i will have to disagree, kamael sure is a strong race and good in pvp, but when it comes to results, awakened elf mage has better racial skills not to mention its stats.
     
  5. Kall

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    topic moved to better section.
    have a nice discussion.
     
  6. Zozy_1111

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    awakened sts in full buff: casting speed -> 1999, m. atk -> over 18k, m. crit -> about 200.

    what about other races?
     
  7. RulezzPT

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    what dyes you choose?
     
  8. Kurai

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    since casting is eventually capped at 1999, and sts has no problem hitting this at high levels, it only comes down to matk which sts beats mm hands down.

    2cents.
     
  9. Zozy_1111

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    i had +14 on wit (2 wit giant's dyes bought from the test server helper and an ancient dye +4wit -2 men +10 wind resist)
     
  10. RulezzPT

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    thanks,

    but, i have a de and only have 14k m attack, 1,4k cast speed ?!

    dyes is + 5 wit + 5 int + 5 con
     
  11. Zozy_1111

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    empovering echo + arcane power + enchanter buffs + healer buffs + immortal robe set + r grade acumen weapon (+4)

    i just couldn't get wit or int pendant, so it could have been even more m atk.

    edit: and i also had a casting speed talisman.
     
  12. RulezzPT

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    ahhh, okey ;)

    thanks for answer
     
  13. DevilHealer

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    speed wins over power.. thus the amount more int a de has is totally negligible right? oh my god, you are a genius!!!

    so why does speed win over power? have you tested it? i did the maths and de's have about 11% more int and elves 9% more wit. what does this mean? probably that for every 10-11 crits a de does, an elf will crit 1 more.. talking about negligible, i'd say that is more negligible. just as negligible as 11% more int compared to 9% more wit right? as you see it is quite balanced according to stats.

    ps: that +3 casting speed of elf race skills just seals the deal.. it makes them just too ****ing fast..
     
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  14. Diamonds

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    research isnt one of your strong points, eh? you have no date to prove anything. might as well said dwarven mystics are the best.
     
  15. Intrepid

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    i have to agree about sps beeing a goog mage but your calculation doesnt include so many things.

    the good thing about l2 is that theres not a single char thats exactly the same meaning topics such as "best race to awaken" are happen to have no results. the calculations are so complicated and hard to oversee(hands down to diego vargas from l2guru at this point :d ), that you cant judge a class that easy.
     
  16. VoidStar

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    what trick ?
     
  17. Diamonds

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    what calculations?
     
  18. Intrepid

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    let's start with some easy maths.
    if a has 6 speed and b has 4 speed. a is 1/3 faster than b (a has an advantage)
    if a has 4 power and b has 6 power. b is 1/3 stronger than a (b has and advantage)

    this
     
  19. Nicomm

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    you forget one important thing in all your cast is better than speed.

    if a need to cast 2 spell to kill b and b only have to cast 1 but at a slower speed, b will win.

    the calculation has to be : damage output per skill / time to cast a spell.
    do that math and post conclusion after and i'm pretty sure, it's almost the same.
     
  20. Intrepid

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    yes but the damage output is not fixed so you cant really get exact amount just an average in a situation which rarely happens in l2(like exact same item with exact bonuses and exact same buffs)
     
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