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I can't belive it is not a bug..... Awakens vs 1-84 lvl debuffs

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Flauros, Feb 5, 2012.

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  1. Flauros

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    first of all sorry for my bad english ,i do not come from breat britain.

    so now awakens can throw debuffs on low lvl char what i mean "low lvl" 1-84.

    all class can give dot, on every character which they want.where is the problem? problem is awakens can debuffs even when you are not flagged !
    it's damn nonsense ! i exp on pi with my summoner and a few morons from 7s, debuffs me and other players (im not flagged i dont have a war and its not place like "siege" where people can hit each other

    in old l2 ,yes max lvl can debuff,dot,kill you,buffs you.but first of all you should be flagged !

    so now all awakens can dot,debuff me,wihout consequences ? it's totally sick system in my opinion...

    and im not some kind "ponny players",or im "cryer" and others stuff like this.i love pk,pvp, wars but with some fair play,they dont need me pk ,they need just wait when i agro mobs and all debuffs going to me and im dead.... :confused: :mad:
     
  2. DevilHealer

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    i like the current system. anything else is carebear. an mmo will never be fair. you are lieing about not being a pony player. i think you should go play some pony game instead.
     
  3. darky

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    well i have killed some bots in loa with my marks it say its a damn good thing when you have bots running around xd
     
  4. Flauros

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    i love pk,pvp,wars .i die sometimes,i kill sometimes,people killing me i killing people.i don't cry about this,i cry about 85 lvl killing 77 lvl with debuffs without ****ing flag its sick.ofc i think you are awaken so you speaks thinks like that,but if you die a lot of times becose some ***** is bored and he walking around you and giving you all debuffs witch they in 6 second make your hp at point 1,propablly you will start speak diffrent way.

    greetings
     
  5. DevilHealer

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    it is people like you who make mmo's like ****. what do you want, that everybody should waste 1 year of their life on leveling up, and then fight with equal levels, equal gear etc? no thanks. quit crying here, nobody cares.
     
  6. Tazman

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    good, scrubs feel that they can farm everywhere they want even if spot is taken by stronger ppl, atleast we have dots instead of pk's.
     
  7. Awe__

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    well, i exped my es there, got dots... but instead of qqing on forum, i just ksed more and more mobs from them xd
    if you. plaing summoner, need to agro mobs on yourself, not on summon, go play tetris. in other case, you can't die there.
     
  8. Umbarabumba

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    this
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  9. ZoomZoom

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    edit: nvm misunderstood the problem
     
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  10. Jitte

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    for me i love this system,we should get this kind debuff since lvl 1:d when i was lvling my sub everytime i find a good spot, and since i lvl a melee class, everytime there was a range fagg try to take the damn room by ksing all the mobs, and everytime i said gtfo its my room , the nubs thinking wat a damn melee can do, and when i flag most of them strip the armors and say "pk me plox"(heartbreakers wanabe???) so its fun switch for main dot then and watch them die from mobs, most of them pm me about i was abusing a bug and i was getting ban for it, mad mofos
     
  11. Brume

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    pk a player without being flagging back is so called a bug abuse, add this to do it in a lower lvl area without having anything to do there but this it's greifing.
    but rather than qqing on forum, peoples should use the "use support" option, report players doing this with the time frame and explain why, where, what, who. (wwww) since each time they will qq on forum they only will get flames and trolls from other peoples that beleive l2 is a place for this without respect and knowing of each other and will get their chance on get peoples getting warning reduced to 0 (the less you talk about an infraction, the more the peoples gets punished for it). because overall l2 is a mmo, and mmo means social interaction between players since massive muds.
    beleive me if you want but greifing (i don't mean legit pvp/pk), insulting, overlimit rudeness, too much trying to be on the edge of the borderliness is actually sanctionable. every peoples that actually laugh at this subject (i mean the subject, not the way it is actually aborded there) is an hypocrit liar to the community and even more important : to himself and got no self esteem.

    be adult, grow in your heads and look at it a step behind, you should understand the deep problem of actual bug that is "some awaken skill are not flagging people correctly", tho are corrected in harmony for most and corrected in tauti for the remainings and can be implemented on innova server without notification, use of the bug can also be subject to announcement like spezion bug. if you still persisting to not see the problem and if more and more peoples using this, should i remember you what happened to peoples using and abusing the spezion bug ? :>

    in addition : devilhealer, your avatar is against the rules (offensive). and your the most aggressive in their treating peoples that just reporting a bug (in i must admit not a good way for an "hardcore" game) to be "carebear", and say the only way to approach a mmo is yours and not any others (selfish player ?). my opinion is your a baby crying more to peoples than the op (original poster) to not see a bug your abusing being flagged and looked back by the staff (and it's not the only post you're actually aggressive on this subject of killing peoples without being flagged).

    jitte : no comment.
     
  12. Jitte

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    u have to realise that i dont pk any1 with dots, hp goes to 1 and mob kill them, and i think its a good thing, coz for me i dont ks any 1 that is allready in spot, but think for abit im a melee class found a free spot ,start pve then some ******* that is a range class came and start ks coz he is faster killing mobs and u expect me to just leave the spot?before god i would pk like no tomorrow, but since ncsoft made this carebear mode of "pk me plox" so we have to twink twice before pk some 1 is ********.
    and isnt l2 all about drama, and wars dont get why u play this game srsly if u so upset of ppl insulting and stuff u have block system for that, even i never use that in l2.
    tell me wat u do if some random guys are xping in a very good spot and u cant do nothing about it , coz they wouldnt flag back?
    if i dont wana pk i dot them simple :d
     
  13. Flauros

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    so why is still flag system ? remove flag system and all will be fine.
    but now awakens can debuff you,you cant debuff awaken ,where is fair gameplay?
    you can all tell me i should go play tetris and other like this but i dont care.

    you guys say"ohh i can give debuff peoples who took my room"
    i say "you should be flagged to debuff opponent" ->this system function from c1 to h5.if we want debuff each other remove flag system ,simple and easy.


    devilhealer u are too agressive maybe you should go to shaolin monks and start meditation ?

    i always thinking forum it is to make post thread, and put some your "vision of game" but i see people like you make this forum ****.i cant even say word bad about what i see ,becose haters like you goona hate :rolleyes:

    greetings all, have nice debuffs from people 85+
     
  14. Jitte

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    when u debuff u get flag dunno wat u talking about
     
  15. Brume

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    i think you now play the ignorant people about what is a "debuff", but if you know the game as you seems to say you should understand what he means when he say "debuff", it's something that removing a positive buff or putting negative buffs like dots, bleed, poison, or in this case the curse from iss, lift from mage and the debuff from sumoner that are negative "buff" or so called debuff that don't make the launcher character "flag". got the point ?
    since the start of lineage every negative action against another player result in a flag for pvp state (even stuns).
    and afterall you've also point out another bug abuse that is the "dot" or "bleed" problem witch removes hp (as normal) but also when players are on monster don't makes you the "pk" even if it's you who've make the most damage to the target. considered as a monster kill.

    edit : this post should be transfered to the pts section since is a bug that innova can fix.
     
  16. Jitte

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    like i said when u debuff u get flag
     
  17. Brume

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    and we said : no it's not even happens actually on some debuff skills. that's why we said there is a bug. it's the definition of a bug : when something working unintended happens. remember the quality check rule of 5w :
    who : an awaken
    when : use certain debuff skills
    do what : on non awaken toon
    where : in field
    and why : because he want to make him dead.
    this result a bug of the awaken not flagging or even about dots not being considered as the killer.

    want better explanations : do some researches and test in game :)
     
  18. Jitte

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    when i bleed and lift some 1 i get flag.
    and if u are that smart u would post a screen with that "bug", instead assuming i dont know wat is talkin about u are just another ******** crybaby imo
     
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  19. Umbarabumba

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    its ok atm
    many idiots used to come and ks on our spot, they didnt understand the spot is taken
    ppl cant pk as they used in the past, it is fine to let ppl use debuffs on ******s who ks to let them die by mobs, ignoratns who dont understand spot is taken by stronger players, they deserve to die by mobs
     
  20. Brume

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    did you know how much time it take to a "normal" player to unkarm with the actual system ?
    pigeon holed argument.
    you lose 1 point every 15k effective xp you should normally get. this mean a lvl 70 can loose 3 points every mobs, in 250 monsters you make the turn. let you make the calc for an awaken. you're just lazy to take this argument to motivate your bug use, but it's still a bug use that no reason should justificate to use. (for info, you should hunt for 11m worth xp monsters to loose 1 pk actually, hooooowww god, it's damn high).

    want to play the bad guy or protect your spawn : go pk.
    use lame tactics and bug : you just deserve to be banned.

    edit : nice edit afterward jitte using hmmm bad bad words. you should know somethings, i'm better using a forum than you, and i know more rethoricals than you. am i attacking you ? no. i'm pointing out two things, the first is there is a bug, the second is peoples using and abusing it even you tho recognize using one part of it in upper post. is it to blame ? actually, yes. is it to punish ? actually no.
    and we have nothing to provide you, it's an assumption for players, not something to spread exactly to them (like spezion ?) for everyone to use it freely and becames unbearable for the staff. there is actually enough peoples using the "badest" function of the bug to add more peoples and it's start became to be normal. because it's not. don't try to tell every one it's work as intended and it's the only way to protect a spot against other, it's a pigeon hole argument.

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