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[POLL] What is better for PVE Glad vs Dagger

Discussion in 'Class Discussion' started by Dianoace, Jun 2, 2015.

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What is better in PVE

  1. Gladiator

    41.5%
  2. TH

    35.8%
  3. AW

    18.9%
  4. PW

    3.8%
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  1. Dianoace

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    I wonder which is actually better for PVE and if you say so Why is it better ???
     
  2. Dianoace

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    I vote for Gladiator since he got some good actives.. and nice base stats as a human
     
  3. Machinae

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    TH, historically.
     
  4. Orcoso

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    PVE, gladi would be better since daggers can't tank with their evasion like they used to.

    Gladi with heavy + duals = more pdef and patak than a dagger.

    The situation might change if you wont be tanking (party with anohter heavy user) and you have focus SA. Then the dagger might kill a little faster.

    But gladis got a bump this chronicle, they got a ranged stun, that might make them actually worth something on a pvp.
     
  5. Laimes Kalvis

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    abyss walker. hex.
     
  6. Kabulozo

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    Dagger > Glad for both pve and pvp. Thinking about a long term deal off course.
     
  7. Orcoso

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    You can't know that.

    Glads got a huge bump, with the ranged stun and other stuff. We won't know till we actually see.

    There arent many reports from those classes since everyone is making mages or archers.
     
  8. Richpwnz

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    Have you ever looked at TH passive skills? There was a reason they were the most common DD class in every single bot train pre interlude
     
  9. Orcoso

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    Do you realize that the game doesnt work on classic the same way it used to since prelude?

    If that was the old l2, i wouldnt think twice before saying TH or any other dagger. But this is a different game, the dude will be playing live w-o soulshouts and limited support/heals.

    From the information I gathered so far I can say that at the START (under lvl 44), the gladi will do better.
     
  10. Richpwnz

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    I'll take that as a no to looking at the passive they get then since that's what made them so viable, even more when not using soulshots and considering they get those passives in classic, well well~
     
  11. Mr_Kzimir

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    If you plan to have a spoiler in your melee group , i would highly recommand a TH.

    Especially if lethals are in the game
     
  12. Dianoace

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    Well TY all for your replys.
    I know the th was good in pvp/pve back in old days but now He cant evasvion Tank so easy anymore.
    also all bot trains using mages....there must be a reason no?
    I think gladi vs dagger pvp the dagger will lose if ue Not up
     
  13. Orcoso

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    For PVE the gladi will START with an advantage since he can tank a little bit, and his damage isnt horrible.

    But for pvp, dagger skills are really good, backstabs ignoring CP and critical/lethals. Can make a huge difference
     
  14. Dianoace

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    Well I think a gladi will always win a dagger ;) but thats just my opinion ;p dagger Do crit dmg wich is reduced by heavy armor. Also He Has a Lot HP and cp. Dagger Has only a Part of his life cp Pool. Gladi skills wont miss and Deal 800 - 1000 dmg ~ to a dagger. Also he got 2 StuNS
     
  15. KoBa4a

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    Both characters are unique in themselves...
    Don't forget that you have to play what do you like...
     
  16. Dianoace

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    Indeed. U got the point. Gladi gets more viable once there are 78 skills ;)
     
  17. Machinae

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    dbsnap?
     
  18. Dianoace

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    Both **** for pve, but glad still better than any dagger most of the times (for solo glad, for melee party i would go with any dagger for the lethals).
     
  20. Dianoace

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    and what about AOE Potential for GLadis? they are better in pve than u prolly think :p
     
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