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10 things to make Classic better (dvp opinion)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by oldmofo, Oct 28, 2015.

  1. oldmofo

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    Hello, guys.
    I am "dvp" - old Lineage 2 C1-C5 player.
    Also I have been playing RU Classic La2 Server for 8 monthes, and I am playing here nowadays.
    But, in general, what i want to say - Classic it's just the best thing that happened with Lineage 2 after Interlude.
    But there are some serious troubles. People who didn't played Classic on high levels (60+) couldn't imagine some of them.
    I spent a lot of time thinking about main problems and ways to solve them.
    Here is short list.

    1. AN INSANE DROP WHEN YOU ARE KILLED BY THE MOB
    - The chances of drop like from PK in old chronicles – it is not normal.
    - The people are afraid of PVP because of losing their items after killing by the mob.
    - The new players often leave the server after losing their weapon.
    - The people are forced to use the second window for “Force Relog”.
    - Permanent “undressing” during solo game or game in squad of mini parties.
    SOLUTION: Remove drop of equipped items.

    2. THE ATTRIBUTE SYSTEM IS PRACTICALLY NOT WORKING
    - Dark Resist lvl 3 + Song of Invocation = -7% dmg.
    During C4-C5 Chronicles was ~50% dark resistance
    - Other elemental D/S = -3% dmg. In an old chronicles was ~25%.
    - As a result we can see necro-parties which couldn’t be resisted.
    SOLUTION: To increase an attribute values of buffs and D/S and reach almost 20% resist from one buff. Near 40% from two buffs (Now Dark only).

    3. UNBALANCED +12 TATOO
    - Bonuses of all sets were developed for +5 max. Many sets are losing their value.
    - Giving a great advantage to mages, which can make +12 CON without losing anything. The Physics don’t have nothing like it, even no +MEN.
    - The mages are reaching a great DPS increasing from +12 WIT, losing a minimum stats value from –MEN. Not a circumstance to physics victims.
    SOLUTION: Making max value +5 as it was always.

    4. MELEE CLASSES IS PRACTICALLY UNPLAYEBLE
    - Except Warlords and Tanks
    - There are no catacombs – primordially comfortable locations for melee classes.
    - Nerf Vampiric Rage
    - Problems with mana in PVP, in addition to other problems.
    SOLUTION: Making VR as it was before.
    Decrease the mana cost for some melee skills. Allow making + MEN to fighters.

    THE DETAILS AND CONSEQUENCES

    5. The huge size of War Icon
    - The view of the "Field of War" is decreasing very much.
    SOLUTION: Make “Fists” back or make this icon less.

    6. Playing Lineage 2 Classic: Age of Necromancers
    - Not all people want to play in Necromancers game, but unfortunately, they it is very unbalanced.
    - The necromancer on set of DPS/Survival/speed of level up was certainly the best class.
    - Earlier we could make a dark resist near 50% from mass-necro parties, but not now.
    - 12 tattoo is giving too much to nukers.
    - Huge "Fear" land rate and casting speed
    - The Top Single-Target exping using CDL.
    - Top AOE exping using Corpse Blast (no target limit)
    SOLUTION: p.2-p.3 autofixes necro-problem enought.

    7. Very cheap BSOE at CH (20k)
    - On set p.1 making PVP even less possible.
    SOLUTION: Increase the value of BSOE to 150-300k.

    8. Transformations
    - Another blurry picture of the battle.
    - It is unnecessary innovation.
    - The way to “Star Wars”.
    SOLUTION: Cut of this BS.

    9. The redicilous reflect – 40%, which is working on range attacks
    - Freezing/ Blazing Skin 20%.
    - Chant of Revenge 20%.
    - Song of Vengeance 20%.
    SOLUTION: Decreasing from 10-20% to 5-10% in all cases.

    10. Scrolls of noble buffs in the castle, +2k CP from the castle.
    - The way to make immortal parties.
    SOLUTION: Removing the noble scroll, decreasing CP bonus to 1k.

    Also I've made video about it, but on my native Russian language :[
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG-NZV3eVPw
    In video I am talking more deeply about this problems and showing some additional info.
    If you are interested in such kind of videos, but in english - you'd just like this post.
    If you agree with me and want to make Lineage 2 Classic better - please like the video.

    Also if you interested check video of 60 lvl Necromancer with +12 WIT and 2k CP fom castle
    Funny thing - 1st character of this guy was 59 lvl HawkEye :D



    Here is necro-pack having some fun with top archer pack (62+ lvl, +7 bows, +6 drake sets)



    BTW i'm thinking about going to EU Classic :>
    Maybe it can be better with our help.
    Thanks for reading.
    Best regards, your dvp!
     
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  2. turnON

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    HI old clan mate from teon ,

    case is this needs development hit to the core of system - which is managed by ncsoft .
    I'm quite not sure if this is gonna happen for Europe but lets see possibilities what innova can give us for head start
     
  3. Fei

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    I agree with everything except the first one about drop againts mob(maybe disable the drop possibility while flaged), good post dvp.
     
  4. ALOviTUT

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    +12 dyes - good, cause mages dont have acumen in weapon.
     
  5. oldmofo

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    All other weapons didn't have SA too. No focus in bows, crit dmg/might mortal in daggers etc.
    Nice idea, bro. Didn't think this way :)
    Fei BD from Teon? )))
     
  6. Orcoso

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    Archers don't have focus or even QR, they can't go +12 dex without downside.
    Daggers don't have crit damage, but they also can't go +12 str without downside.

    If the mages were forced to take out con or int to add that much wit, it would be fair.
     
  7. Alexsaysz

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    Agree with almost everything, someone translate this to korean and send it to SK motherbase!

    PS: As far as i know you have stopped playing GK (except sieges maybe), in the main thread where it says "i've been playing" should be "i've played".
     
  8. Approbus

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    I agree with 90+% of what you said. I hope Innova will implement any of this suggestions.
     
  9. oldmofo

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    I come back to gran kain to check Age of Splendor update. Playing Shillen Knight to test some things. Just not streaming.
     
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  10. Fei

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    Yup good old time
     
  11. ComedyL2c

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    cry more. All depends on skill, online, setup. As it was in all lineage 2 cronicles. And this is lineage 2 classic, its not c1-c2-c3 and other old chronicles, developers made this project and tryed to remove some huge mistakes that were made several years ago , but this doesn`t mean that they won`t make new mistakes, and the primary thing why ppl are interested in classic - is a hardcore roleplay, some ppl cry about drop from pk or when u are killed by mobs - but this is best lineage 2 classic option, cause bots and afk clickers are suffering much more than active players, transformations are not so imbalanced as they seems to be. Necromancers op - that is not totally truth, cause when we played archers there were no problems with any classes during 6 month active game. But i agree that mage classes are koreans favourites, it was it is and it would be ) Some chronicles they are not so op, but in totall lineage 2 game play which includes mass pvp + exp + farm +9vs9 + daily - they are . I agree with tattoes .
     
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  12. Orcoso

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    I heard something similar, that he hasn't actually played the game much and that other people geared and lvled him. BUT even if it is true, it shouldn't matter.

    The stuff he pointed out seem to be true, I have seen people fearing wartags many times in to mobs and catch their loot, and every time they would get some armor part
     
  13. Norz!

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    Don't remove the chance to drop items when killed by mobs, but make it much lower chance so it becomes "bad luck" instead of "standard", like back in the day.

    Everything else is perfect, nothing to add to it.

    Solid post.

    Take notice please Innova!
     
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  14. Orcoso

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    you might wanna re write that, it is very confusing
     
  15. siljimen

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    lololol dvp good post , and you remenber chall Gaucho Mtortas Daulor and my xdd 3siljimen lol archer :) come server eu xdddd
     
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  16. ComedyL2c

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    bad english, but i think its possible to understand what is written there)
     
  17. Hartassen

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    +1 to everything except #1 with the added modification of what Fei said - to disallow drop from mobs when flagged.
     
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  18. Orcoso

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    yes, but you could help by using your "enter" key more often
     
  19. RMuser

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    Seconding Andrew's opinion.
     
  20. Alexsaysz

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    Haven't you sent this in russian to the russian branch of Innova? If you did, did you get a response?

    Logic tells me this should have been already talked over russian 4game forums.