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Discussion in 'Aeore Healer' started by iDiavolo, Dec 6, 2015.

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  1. iDiavolo

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    Hellouuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    I decided to change class from my Yull Tricster(Kamael) to Aoere Eva's Saint for purpose to help out and fill missing spot on my CP. I been kinda decend healer on pre-GoD chronicles so hope I will get soon used there aswell. Since our CP is looking for active pvp action(small clan with lot's of cw with other small clans) I'm willing to build it purelly to pvp healer. I been watching vids from and fallowing on youtube best core/ncwest healers, but still having lot's of questions, and current biggest problem is about gearing and which way shoud I focus now. That why I'm asking help of you(this server healer's), I'll decribe my current equip, and woud like to get some toughs on what shoud I work first.
    Coz I play only nearly 7weeks after work i'm yeat poor and low-leveled.

    LvL 96(Dual 85 Feoh Archmage)

    Armors: TW robe set+8 3x120
    Weapon: None(can't yeat decide shoud I pick +4 2sa apo retri for healing amount or similar buster for mana boost)
    Jewel's: Istina necl norm, pvp stun ress ear, istina ear wiz, ring's imm.
    Talismans: annihilation, venir st3.
    Brooch: Pearl lv3, Emeral lv2
    Shirt: octavis
    Skills: +0 all

    And that's about it, about skill's I do have a lot of SGC but not sure or shoud I spend my SP/Adenas now for that. So as you see I'm poor, so can't afford top items yeat, but hope some1 can show me which way shoud I go first. My current pocket money is around 2b, but that dosnt matter even if something that I shoud be working 1st woud cost 50b I will just go for it and will do my best untill I will get it. Just please dont list all top items, coz I can imagine that already. Thanks in advance for all your ansver's I'll appreciate it.


    p.s. I'll be doing olympiad too, not for hero ofc, but just for fun coz that for myself is most enjoyable thing in this game.
     
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  2. Summ1t

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    Well your armor is quite good for now. About your weapon you should also consider playing with a cutter with health sa if you can handle healing without acumen. Althought many healers play with mage weapons (I am healer with dual feoh and play with 2sa retri cause it helps my dual, but in future i will definetely play with health on healer).
    Also try to buy 2 rings. Since you dont have much money atm you could even play with CoC ring (and upgrade it to pvp) and even an oe beleth for the extra mdef. This is the cheapest set i can think atm. Your other jewels are good (i prefer playing with bless freya neck but istina is ok too)
    Finally, since most of server is yulls and othels try to make a diamond brooch (and maybe an obsidian since you mostly want to play pvp). Dont enchant your skills yet, wait at least untill 99lvl for more success rate (and also you have to focus on more important things :) )
    If you want to help your dual then the first thing you should buy is an R mage weapon (retri, buster or caster is up to you but in my opinion healers dont need mana up, i never run out of mana). If you dont care that much about your dual atm better spend money on jewels or brooches which they will help you stay alive for more at pvp :D
     
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  3. iDiavolo

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    Okey you ansvered few of my question, thanks a lot. Now I will give few of new ones xD
    Which CoC ring shoud I choose? Wind att ress? If as 2nd I woud choose Beleth for example.
    What about Belt? is it worth now get r95 pvp defense one? or shoud I wait for eternal one? is it worth at all now getting it?
    Shirt? octavis is okey? or shoud I focus getting shinny one or atleast pre-shiny one?
    What about accecorys?(forgot to mention that I have Fairy antenea WIT+3) Do I need INT+3? or M.def/P.def ones? Or maybe Con+3?
    What about Hunter talisman? Or any other ones Venir st7-10? Upgrading my seed tali to Hellfire/Desire/Longing?
    From your advices I'm getting that 1st I shoud get retri(will help my dual aswell in future) simple +4 2sa bless I think. And as 2nd I woud focus on ring's, and 3rd brooches.
     
  4. qqOGC

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    and what if i'm using pve buster (10% hp/cp/mp) acu+mana up and +15 con on dyes ? or it's still better to get weapon + hp ?
     
  5. Padj1l

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    Well if you're going to take parts in pvp among mid-clans, you can get a good setup pretty cheap as a healer. Your armor is fine.
    About jewels, you'd rather have a normal istina or orfen soul, they are pretty cheap atm instead of your istina wiz. For rings, you can get 2 pvp rings from coc/og which are decent and cheap or a beleth. Get a soul frint if you can.
    I'd say the most important thing for you will be to rush lvl 99 8AP which you will take full HP, this will give you a lot of survivalbility.
    About brooch, get obsidian and diamonds lvl 3.
    About the weapon, either take a mage weapon for better heals/your dual, or a simple health cutter, very cheap ( gonna cost you 100kk) and usefull in pvp to stay alive, I personally chose the second option. Note that on next update you wil be able to have health on mage weapons with new SA, so you might want to go for that in the long run.
    Outlaw talisman is a must for pvp as well.
     
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  6. iDiavolo

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    Outlaw talisman is a must for pvp I'm 100% agrreeing. Checked stats for ist ear wizz and normal and yeah I will upgrade from wiz to normal. Now question about weapon, yes I'm looking for long term run, so retributer woud be better option coz on next update we will be able to put hp on it right? but maybe for now I coud get cutter+hp, just a question, wont my cs will be really low with it? Or do I need to use WIT dyes for this purpose? (I was thinking about adding Lv3 Leg CON dyes for now and later on Lv5).
     
  7. Summ1t

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    I play with holy and dark resist but wind is ok too...this is up to you i guess.
    An R95 pvp belt I believe its ok you dont have to wait for the R99 and if you play a lot of pvp i think its worth taking it.
    For shirts I always go for the ones from L2 store and not from octa or istina cause i think they are better. But if u think you are not lucky and dont want to risk your money better go for an octa. Because my shirt went to +7 with just one try, thought my tank's and my othel's never managed to go more than +5.....! So the shiny shirt is a risk unless you are planning to spend a lot of euros :p
    Hair accessories, talismans, dyes and stuff are dependable in my opinion. You should play your healer and check if you are lack of casting speed or pdef or mdef or whatever and then fix this with dyes and stuff. I play with con dyes and hair accessory i only have one mdef and one int for now which i swap them depending the situation.
    Talismans cost a lot of money and i think with what you have you are ok for now cause you could spend this money in more nessecary stuff.
    And only Padj is right for the update about the sa but i havent heard excaclty when will that be.

    i guess with pve weapon you wont need health sa but if you are a 96lvl healer you dont have that option :)
     
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  8. Padj1l

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    I'm using a health cutter and +15 CON dyes for pvp, and i think it's ok. Your cast won't be that high for sure, but i think the survivalbility it gives you is worth it especially when you have low gear.
     
  9. iDiavolo

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    I saw on forum one of GM's said that new update ETA is the second half of december. So let's say untill new years we will have new sa's and option to put hp on mage weapons together with acumen and others.
    About shirt's not I'm not planing spending any euros except PA, but though about buying l2store from a friend/cp member, so this option aviable ofc it will cost me lot's of adenas and will need to invest lots of time to making them. With my current steady income I can make nearly 500kk profit per week. That's why I'm though maybe it's worth considering putting into "must do list".
    Most of my question getting ansvered I'm wery happy about that, thankfull for both of you for such crusial info(for example 1st time heard about healers using cutters+hp), definetelly I will have more of them, but now I will spend my night overthinking all info I got, and "theory crafting" what my goals will be next few weeks or more :))

    btw last question for now about dyes. Can I use +CON for example 3xLv.3 Legendary +4CON +3 CHA? I heard something you can't use 3 same type dyes, so for example you need to put Lv.3 Legendary +4 Con +3 cha/Lv.3 Ancient +4 con -2str Dark +15/Lv.3 Giant +4 con -3str or Lv.3 Legendary +4con -3luck?
     
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  10. Ronove

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    Some pretty solid advice on this thread. I would just say that probably you will want 2 different weapons for your main and dual, healer and feoh will just have different priorities in terms of SAs in my opinion. You might want max HP on healer and some damage on feoh.
    Casting speed isn't a factor if you have 2 healer setup and some mana pots, with frantic healing is permanent 1999 in any case, even without WIT dyes, or WIT accessory, or even acumen on weapon.
    One thing to note, you should focus to make your dual class 99 as soon as your main reaches 99, the bonus from dual class certifs is quite significant.

    CON/Pdef are both fine choices. M. Atk for olympiad.
    Probably a waste of your money. You might not even have slots to equip it later on if you use PA talismans on PvP.
    For olympiad.
     
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    Well I would say you must get lv 3 obsidian and diamond for pvp or at least lv 2.
     
  12. Seivlas

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    As mentionned above, you'll probably be better to wait for the new update for your weapon. Buying now a cutter for the health SA isn't imo a good idea when you'll have the same on a buster after. About the brooch, if your income is 500kk/week, you can afford a 4slots brooch + some jewels, you'll better go for :
    - Obsi / Pearl / Diamond / Emerald (healer)
    - Obsi / Diamond / Opal / Saphir (feoh)
    Make them lvl 3, it's not THAT expensive and the bonus is huge. You'll be able to upgrade them later, but lvl 4 is more expensive, and lvl 5 is expensive as hell...

    As for Talisman, the biggest boost your stuff can have is the Hunter (or Outlaw) Talisman, because it reduces by 15% (a full pvp set is 20% dmg reduction) the pvp dmg received (plus nice bonus). The annihilation (the last one with a 100% upgrade rate is good for you, don't go higher, at least on healer. For the feoh, you'll want to upgrade it later, when the damage reflect will become an issue (it will). The desire offers a 30% reflect damage resistance, so it will allow you to spam skills on mass pvp without worrying too much about damage reflected.

    Armor is pretty straight forward, Blessed Twi Robe +8 <=> R99 +6 Robe, but the R99 will be able to become eventually blessed then pve/pvp and/or +8. So twitwi is cheaper, but is a "dead-end" option. Your choice here.

    Jewels, your earrings are pretty solid stun resist wise. The mental resist + Prayer of the soul orfen is pretty nice, but I wouldn't change them atm. On the other hand, immortal rings are... well... Try to grab an istina ring, will be nice mdef wise for healer, will totally change your life on feoh. second ring slot will be probably more expensive, you have some options here :
    -Soul AQ : stun resist, m.crit damage, m.crit rate <=== I'd take this I think
    -Soul Baium : stun resist, m.crit damage, cast speed, mental resist/attack (expensive)
    -Tauti : PvP damage reduction/augmentation, high mdef
    -Beleth : Highest Mdef ever. I think it'd be better if it wasn't the "yul/othell" era.

    PvP defense belt for healer, PvP damage for feoh (if you've enough money, the CH belts are pretty cheap nowadays (and, why not, a ruler's later ! ^^)

    Dye : +15 CON imo.
     
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