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Thoughts of release date from an old timer

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by FOrmz, Dec 10, 2015.

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  1. FOrmz

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    Hello

    I know alot of people is going berserk because of the new release day (yes im one of them that does not like it at all) so im just gonna post some toughts ive had around this and maybe even have some questions aswell... dont get me wrong tho, i STILL like that they actually gonna release the server.. but here is something you should think about.

    1. First of all, this is an european server right? doesnt matter who or where the company is from, you just dont release a game 2 days before christmas in europe, never heard or seen anything so stupid from a game company before. (and yeah i know all the forumwarriors/kids is gonna be like "but be happy the server comes out blablabla,",) chill out, just because i hate the release date Im still happy, just putting my thoughts out here)

    2. All of you guys spitting out ******ed things like "What does it matter if you guys cant play from the start? its not like your gonna be a factor or be the best if you start 7 days ahead".. well guess what! alot of us who wanna play lineage 2 classic from europe is oldtimers, probably very few of us wants to be a factor or whatever all hardcore ppl here is aiming for. We just know how much fun there is on a new server start, we wanna be able to be there from day 1 to see all chaos, pvp, griefing, tears of joy and experience it all over again. yet again, let me point out this is an european server right?

    3. So Preorders? alot of us from europe cant play during holidays at all since we have jobs and familys to visit around this time, some of us cant play anything on the early access. and this is what it says in the mail after youve preordered
    "Don’t forget that all characters on your account that you’ve played during early access period will receive a set of exclusive in-game items." Meaning if you cant play during early access you wont get them at all? and how many did preorder from europe and thought "they cant be so stupid to release a game on christmas?" and here we are, paid for it just to see that we cant actually play on early access anyways.

    4. We have been waiting for an european server for a year, half a year with knowing that we might get a server, and when i saw the preorder coming up i bought 2 the same hour it came up thinking this will be awsm! and they said preliminary date is 15th december and i was thinking "what? rly?? ah well i guess thats the normal release date so preorder will be around 8th december then" guess what, no, they changed early access to 22th december? who in gods name came up with that ridiculous idea? anyhow, if we have been waiting for a year already, why not wait 2 more weeks or so? and release the game on a normal date when 99% of the european community would be happy about it?

    5. I know alot of ppl on these forums are really happy about this release date, because you can play ANY day whenever you want (because lets face it, if you can play on christmas ure either a nolifer, or a kid spending your holiday at your home with your computer nearby) btw not saying EVERYONE who can play on those dates is like that but the majority ;) so would it be so bad to wait 2 more weeks? its not like you cant play after two more weeks? but im glad for you guys who can play around that time, i really am! but think again before trashing other people who complains a bit just because they wanna experience everything all over again from back in the days and be there on the start of a new server! but who cant now because Innova decided to release a server on the days when alot of european players cant play.

    6. Is there something else on Innovas minds? like are they doing this so only a part of the community can play because they know alot of players cant play around christmas? just so the servers wont crash? and testing them out? because the servers arent rdy at all atm, they said it themselves, alot of bugs still need to be fixed and so on. Or is it because alot of Innova staff just wanna throw it out there and be done with it? is there anything else behind this? maybe holiday for innova staff later on and they dont have time to release it at the beginning of january? anyone knows? just got me thinking you know!

    7. Dont get me wrong, im still happy that we get an european server even if i think the release date is weird as ***. and as i said, im happy for you guys who can play whenever you want on christmas! Im going home to my family and wont be able to play early access, but since im just playing this game for fun i can start whenever rly. But still a bit sad deep inside for missing out on something i have looked forward to since waaaaaaaaaaaaay back. and i guess alot more oldtimers out there is thinking the same.

    8. I guess there is one good thing about this release that i can think of... and that is alot of casual old timers probably gonna start after christmas holidays so i guess ill meet alot of you guys when im gonna start playing :D

    9. So..... Anyone else hoping something doesnt "work" with the server and they need to postpone it till january? ;) ;) ;) ;)

    10. Anyways thats my thoughts as an oldtimer (oldtimer = played L2 back in c1-c2) i know there is a little bit of complaining but thats part of the forums. and god damn you forumwarriors/trolls dont come with ******ed answers or hate posts with no logic in them (but i guess thats part of the forums aswell ;) )

    thx for reading my thoughts, had to get them out there even if u guys dont want to listen to them huhu!
    Seeya ingame whenever that will be
     
  2. ThreeNill

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    You have some fair points, mainly caused by unclear date when preorders were launched and by making preorders non refundable.
    It would really **** if you can't get the preorder items whenever you log for the first time tho...
    There are a few beneficial things for the players that won't start on day "-7":
    -You won't have to face that much zerg, making leveling faster/easier than compared to all the rest in the beginning.
    -Considering the bad(missing?) advertising campaign for the server, you could expect an influx of new players coming shortly after full release (since preorders will be closed).

    A got a question for you though - would you react in the same way about the "european" stuff if the server(game) was to be lunched by a non-christian, say South American company with server start at 4:00 AM? My guess is your mind will go most to - "well.. they are dumb..but I guess how things are happening there".

    Written by an European.
     
  3. Arrowone

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    Or some people have woken up to the fact of the illusion of christmas is just a scheme to make people spend money, and it doesnt have anything to do with joy and family more then you yourself make it to be. And so some people realize that every day all year is the same. You can have what you get during christmas, everyday instead of just during christmas, or just during midsummer etc... And when you realize that. special dates dont mean anything anymore. Just like it should be.

    In my mind, a nolifer, is someone who works 9-5, making money to get by, or make money in excess. To live is, not to be a slave under some society system, or economy system. and you dont have to be that if you dont want to.
     
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  4. FOrmz

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    Indeed it would ****! yeah if you like to lvl up without other ppl around i guess thats a good point.

    to answer your question, -- > doesnt matter to me who releases a game, it could be the king of never ever land for all i care, you just dont release a game on christmas in europe... its just a rly bad idea since even if you are christian or not u still celebrate christmas in most countries, it doesnt rly have much of a religious part anymore in sweden atleast. just meeting up with family and stuffs
    Dec 10, 2015

    thats one way to think about it.. saying that, u know most ppl actually move away from their parents and get work in other parts of the country they live in? so they cant meet their family whenever they want, so holidays like this is an opportunity to actually meet everyone in your family thats spread out thru the country! And you need to work to have a place to live in right? so even if you dont work 24/7 u still need to work enough days a week to keep up with everything so u can live a normal life? and you cant just get days off from ure work whenever you feel for it? (not all the time atleast) thats why we have these big holidays to meet up with your family when its ok to take some days off your work.

    so yeah still going with that its a stupid idea to release a server around christmas :p
     
  5. Yslock

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    I just hope they wont delay the server again because 25% of the people would like to see a release date after holidays...
     
  6. FOrmz

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    I would love to see a delay till january ;) but i feel ya, u can play on 22th so thats good for you atleast. i understand that some ppl can play on these dates, im just saying if innova would think for the whole eu community they wouldnt release it on Christmas :)
     
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    /offtopic
    I'll barely be able to play, i do have to work the next following days and at evenings i'll be spending time with family.


    Just imaging how they would represent as a company to change the date again.

    I dont like it when people use words as 'entire' 'whole' when barely 25% of the people who really care wanna see the date to be replaced till after holidays. Barely 1000 people even bother voting/be active on a forum.
     
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    I really hope that this has something to do with the Russian holidays that start on June 7 (as I understand from this forum) so Innova can't launch the server and then go on vacation. If there are other reasons, they must be insane.
     
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    Russian holidays are from January 1 to 10
     
  10. FOrmz

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    1. i can imagine, its not like innova is good at representing themselves what so ever, just look how they handled this EU server release... like a JOKE, info every 2 months? not even that sometimes? and then BAM release of preorder and preliminary date, then change the date to christmas... way to go.. cant *** it up more than it already is so what does it matter to change the date again?

    i know i used whole, but lets say 90% then? happy? yeah because a poll on this forum where its like 300-400 ppl active does matter so much...? you rly think even 10% of all ppl thats gonna play on this server is writing on these forums? no they are not, and i would guess 50% is russians voting in that poll anyway since they dont want it on a later date for sure ;) but its still a poll of active members on the forums so lets go with 25%. STILL alot of ppl, 1/4th? crazy much imo
    Dec 10, 2015
    thats what i think one of the reasons is, because it doesnt matter how much u look at it.. no point in stressing out the server like this around christmas, when alot more ppl would be happier with a later release! even if ppl had to wait 2 weeks no one would care that much in europe sure some of them would be mad but most ppl i would say would be happy to go and spend holiday with family and then come back home to a normal release date ;)
    Dec 10, 2015
    and one of my questions was about this in my first post. why do innova wanna release the server asap around christmas instead of early january? not saying it is because of the holidays, but it does feel a bit weird that they actually need to release it at such a weird date in europe :p even tho they say themselves that there is still trouble with the server? why not take the time and do it right instead of having a chance everything will go sideways.
     
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    Damn so much crying about release date.. You guys are saying like its getting released on a christmas Eve. As far as I know 22th IS normal working Day. Even 24th IS working Day here. I dont know what IS such a big deal. For all those ppl that say they wont be able to log for 5min in whole week to claim preorder items, u either lie or u shouldnt decide to play here in the first place. 5min to create character IS that so ***** hard?
     
  12. FOrmz

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    nice try being a forumwarrior except that you dont get it do you? most of the ppl thats going to visit family doesnt go home on the 24th, they go home couple days erlier than that and guess what? some of them doesnt take their computer with them! unbelieveable eh? something called socialising with family for a week or more! and ofc some ppl are working on the 24th, but ALOT of ppl that does that doesnt have far to his relatives or doesnt want to celebrate christmas so they can just go home and do all that! So pls do tell me, why wouldnt ppl play here if they dont have time to log in 5 minutes to a game under the holidays? you think thats a good reason for ppl not to play on this server? wow dude...
     
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    There are around 60 people who actually made it to the forums and voted for moving the release date.
    People who care about L2 classic knows that the early access will start on 22nd of December. They know it from friends, social media.. forums. I am guessing here, but we are hopefully talking about thousands of people.
    And it seems, there are only around 60 people from the many who are bothered so much about the start date that they come to the forum, register and vote.
    I understand that it sucks and hurts and unfair for you.. but yeah.. sorry, you are just not enough.
     
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    True we can only speculate about numbers of whom wants what, and clearly most ppl want it to release on 22th on these forums, no going back on that since its out there! but these are my thoughts about this release and i know for sure alot of other players who was playing back in the days feel the same way as me so thats why i made this topic and nothing else! appreciate someone actually took some time and answered this topic with a fair post, even tho im prob not gonna stop hoping for a later date, be it because the server doesnt work or anything else i dont rly care, can always hope ;)
    But as i said im still happy that they are gonna release the server! better than not releasing it at all! (even tho i dont agree with the date) i mean i can probably play a bit at the end of early access if im lucky!
     
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    Tldr.....stop making server start date threads

    Kk thnx bb.
     
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    What a cringe thread. Calls 75% of people no-lifers, but makes a 20 page long post on how 1 WEEK on a 1x server will ruin his life. Makes one wonder who is the no-lifer. And saying that 25% people is a big number, it is not, because most people probably don't even bother making a forum account and voting (since they don't care). (spoiler: I am visiting my relatives during Christmas and will be away during New Years for a week)
     
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  17. FOrmz

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    well i might have exaggerated a bit, lets say 70% then? and btw i have NOTHING against no lifers, i like to have them around, making it more competetive, nothing bad with that! Not once did i say it will ruin my life? what an imagination u have, just because i post a topic about that I think this date is stupid, you think its my life on the stake? pls good sir think again.
    it kinda is a big number, its still 1/4.
    Good for you man, im going home aswell, but that doesnt mean i cant post a topic about this now does it?
     
  18. Archonum

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    Actualy 90% of the comunity gona be away around Xmass so it doesent even matter...
     
  19. FOrmz

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    we will see how many will be online, i would guess alot, but would be a fair amount more if the release wsnt around christmas for sure


    Stop reading them.

    Kk thnx bb
     
  20. Ajaxx

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    I don't celebrate Christmas, what am I supposed to do 22-26 dec?
     
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