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Enchanter delf vs orc

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Wrath, Nov 29, 2011.

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Iss Enchanter race

  1. Dark Elf

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  2. Orc

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  1. Wrath

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    wondering which race will be better for my 4th class enchanter

    as i understood till now, it will be only race skills difference, so:


    dark elf shadow sense will be removed.

    sharpness: physical / magical critical damage increased by 208. +
    wind blessing: wind attack/defense +10.

    dark presence: str / int increased at night by 1.

    siphon life: vr +1%. +
    acceleration: removes all debuffs on self and increases spd. the caster also cannot be targeted for a certain time.


    versus

    orc orc lose toughness and iron body.

    fire blessing: fire attack/defense +10.

    energetic: hp regen +3.0.

    undying will: trigger - when hp falls below 20% the orc becomes invulnerable for 3 seconds, cooldown 5 min. +
    savage: skill - attack speed increased by 17%, defense decreased by 15%. +

    vote and write your opinion.

    p.s. +* is my opinion advantages of each race
     
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  2. Bandaalk

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    for what concerns the elemental attack both have some (and same amount) attribute : d.elf 1 - orc 1

    savage skill defense malus (15%) is counterbalanced somehow by the energetic hp regen and by a faster vampiric rage thanks to the 17%+ atk speed over the top;
    sharpness will give greater dps (since now the enchanter is supposed to be a melee class) and vampiric rage will be further increased by 1% over the top thanks to siphon life

    in my opinion this is a tie again: d.elf 2 - orc 2

    regarding the ultimate situational skill, acceleration does not trigger like undying will, and personally, i think that the ability to not being targeted is great.

    so this should be a point for the d.elf. 3 - orc 2

    i have not considered many other instances therefore feel free to contribute with more educated infos :) thanks a lot for reading
     
  3. Madrax

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    i must admit that between them it is hard to make a choice....

    undying will:depend of duration of the skill....
    vanish/acceleration : that sounds great....

    for me i will certainly play a warcryer/doomcryer... so it will be orc...
     
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  4. Wrath

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    yeah i have hard times to choose too... in my perspective they are both good, but now im focusing on how armors and weapons will look like on delf or orc (mage), i dont like orc mage with h set+ duals (cause i will use heavy sets), for me better delf+ duals and h, it looks way more cooler, it will look like bd.
    howewer i dont like bd till 4th, for me its not very exciting to dance 2mins intervals :|, wc has more advantages in this, he can solo with wolf nice, also all pt needs wc...

    so idk, i cant choose :| waiting for test server, mb then i can :|

    btw thx for opinions
     
  5. LazyBones

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    how about stats ?

    delf: 92 str, 56 dex, 77 con
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    orc: 88 str, 50 dex, 87 con.

    delf seems a bit more stronger, bigger dmg and crit rate.
     
  6. Bandaalk

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    indeed :) so imo i could say, choose d.elf enchanter if you're looking for a faster and stronger dmg dealer at the cost of less physical debuff resistance and less hp (due to the -10 con)
    choose an orc enchanter if you looking for a more balanced and tougher class with more deb resist at the cost of less dps due to less str and dex.

    but.....i'd say all of this only if i didn't consider the racial skills, so here we go again :d pts will tell and btw this is all subjective imho
     
  7. thombstone

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    in god is dyes +4 -4?
    can meybe make +4str -4con and +4dex -4con and +2dex -4con its -10con
    so? stats de=wc
     
  8. tr00evil

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    +5/-1 dyes!!
     
  9. HuggyBear

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    skills and base stats are not so important (maybe at oli only) but both races have good stats and skills so all u need is to answer this question : wanna be delf of orc ? outfit>exp spd till 85>stats , skills
     
  10. Vivinia

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    well, try to look at this from other perspective - i mean used gear.
    after 85 the best gear is heavy set + dual swords/blunts, so while awakening from bd you don't need to buy new items, in contrary to wc/ol.
     
  11. Wrath

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    good point :)
     
  12. Trafalgar

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    one q. please. why are you ruling out the sws? it's something similar to the de changing the fact that one has more str(+10) and the other more dex(+5) and con(+5). (without taking into account racial skills) and the 1h. sword which u have of main weapon is useful to make the dual swords too xd

    forgive me but i just want to know why u chose these classes instead of the sws (it's the one im planning to play with, and i want to have more points of view about this decision :p)
     
  13. Toxic

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    after awakening you can use 1h sword too.
     
  14. Trafalgar

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    yes, but i think its more suitable for the enchanter to dualize it and have dual swords i think. i only mentioned that because of vivinia's comment about the point of being de and having the dualswords before doing the awakening
     
  15. Alka_

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    they're both good, from having sum pvps today i can tell that these new buffs own and i think enchanter is gonna be 1 rly hard class to beat in oly dmg is rly sweet and they finally get good enough atking skills that own.
     
  16. Wrath

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    i dont like elfs animations (songs , buffs) and elfs looks kinda gay with s ++ grade :| just saying...
     
  17. ZuzuPi

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    orc - because acceleration buff also removes target to yourself - so no attack to enemy.
    wc/ol most of the time use light set instead of robe in low levels too (why? because they're very good by making damage solo + wolf as a pet = mob dies in sec's).

    anyways both races are good. i prefer orc more than delf.
     
  18. Zarat

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    orc for life...
     
  19. Koxxxx

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    yes orc definetly because not having dual swords gerade a s is big disadventage so dark elfs are screwed ...
     
  20. Aelaren

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    all of the chanter skills are useable with simple 1h blunt.
    prepare to throw away your old gear, because lowr weapon is obtainable via teredor instance (120 items needed, 20 items per day via quest). sa crystal is also obtainable via quest (takes 4 days) +19 rgem (1 200 000 each, mammon sells them). only heavily oed old gear can compete with that.
    anyways, no one will care if you use whatever weapon, chanter doesn`t do noticeable damage, his/her only focus is debuff. debuffs are mostly non-magic, so they land even with noob weapon.
    soa daily quest can give random lowr to topr weapon as a reward, but it is really random. though i`ve seen people getting apoc weapons twice in a row..

    as to armor, you`d really want rgrade unless you have 6++ vesper set, chanter needs to be close to mobs to debuff, he catches all kinds of aggro+mass damage. lowr armor is easily obtainable, if you start exping near de village at about lvl83, when you are lvl85, you`ll have all the parts of armor minus breastplate and gaiters. they are obtainable via solo instance in soa (time needed to get them depends on how well you fare in killing mobs there, on average killrate i`d say a weak each item if you do instance once a day; if you do it 2-3 times a day, you`ll get both in less then a week). that is, if you don`t want to depend on drop in other 85+ locations and/or const party distribution.
     
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