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Can the class system be reworked?

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Cheers, Aug 14, 2012.

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Which way do you think the Lineage II class system should be reworked?

  1. Keep the current Awakening system, and add more diversity to racial traits.

    47 vote(s)
    34.3%
  2. Keep the current Awakening system, but let the players be able to learn 3rd class skills again.

    8 vote(s)
    5.8%
  3. Divide the Awakened classes into 34 different classes again.

    65 vote(s)
    47.4%
  4. Add diversity by creating new classes.

    17 vote(s)
    12.4%
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  1. Cheers

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    dear members,

    recently one of our users (thank you, gilby!) has discovered a poll that korean side has concerning the reworking of the class system.

    we decided it'd be interesting to know the opinion of the european users about the way you would like the class system to be reworked.

    fire away!
     
  2. yas

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    +1 for 5th class change quest at lv 99 and bring back 30 diff classes
     
  3. Inverse

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    i want dwarf golem summoner class ^^.
    also they could make talent system like in <most popular mmorpg> so that players can customize their abilities. fro example healers could cpecialize in healing or in damage. and then add scrolls to reset talents to cash store :cool:.
     
  4. BadAss

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    +1 to that too
     
  5. Gilby

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    5th class change ? there is no such thing in the poll :d
     
  6. hidden

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    either
    - add diversity by creating new classes.(voted for it)
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    - divide the awakened classes into 34 different classes again.

    for me when i start a game be it rpg or moba and i have no clue about, that moment when i start to learn how every skill and class works it just make me happy. ;p
     
  7. eXarDo

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    34 classes would be nice, but again, they can't balance even those we got right now. if they make it again half of classes will be usefull as box only.
     
  8. sh1ny

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    keep the current awakening system, and add more diversity to racial traits.
     
  9. Anthares

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    +1

    34 classes again? bad idea... unbalanced classes, 3 buffers in one party... innova will have to enable dual boxes for free because not everybody wanna play buffer
    it's good now, add some new skills for awakened classes and it will be more interesting ;)
     
  10. BGFoReVeR

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    don't do nothing with the current classes.
    goddes of destruction is not like lineage2!
    you can not turn back time just like this..
    the way is to open new server x1 interlude or above ,and you will get 5k+ population. ;p
     
  11. St0ne

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    thats most sensible option from all,no other.
    +1 for that.
     
  12. Dudnex

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    get ma gladiator back and i will play dis again :<<<
     
  13. Zairakh

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    i dont see the point why koreans would pull back from their latest moves,now is already "too late".
    ye the last update pretty much failed / destroyed the game however koreans dont mind at all for western players,barely for the americans cuz their market is a rich and growing one,but european market means nothing in term of profits,but a major marketing breakout (read - more resources invested for a lesser income = :mad: angry koreans).

    and ncsoft now belongs to nexon,they may have completely different plans and goals regarding the old nc assets in the future.
     
  14. RapidBlades

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    it is only a poll, what from the developers want to know, how the players imagine the future of classes or what is their wishes, viewpoints.

    since may of 2012 when was a conference where the developers did listen the korean players what they want, they gave out the echo updates these updates since june constantly release in every 2-3 weeks where constantly happens the upgrades.
    these are really positives changes improved much the population of lineage 2 in korea since these updates.
    the goddess of destruction and their contents had to release it isn't question they took many changes what the developers had to change. but from now they can start or better to say they already start to rebuild the classical lineage 2 with these new features.

    it isn't too late to change, peoples are interesting about the game and these changes will interesting them much more and for sure many of them will try the game again who maybe after the gd or anytime before left the game.

    ncsoft has lower profit from the eu/na simply because they didn't invest enough time and money to marketing and promotions.

    ncsoft doesn't belong to the nexon the nexon is only shareholder in the ncsoft it was a business step from both side, the ncsoft mostly makes successful mmo games while the nexon understand well the marketing, promotion, business much better as the ncsoft does it in the global market.
    so if they make a combination with these abilities they can become to more successful.
    rumors already says, that it can have positive effect in the future mainly at the ncwest, because the lineage 2, aion, city of heroes are f2p games and the nexon is skilled to deal with f2p games in korea and in worldwide too.

    isn't weaker the european mmo market than the us one, just simply easier to sell the games there, cuz there only need to translate to one language peoples has mostly same salaries at every part of the us so, they can calculate with the prices easier also.

    nexon makes good profits in europe too, so if a company really want make business with a product they can do it, but yes the ncsoft mainly develop for korea after for taiwan and japan and just after to another places.

    so i feel, that your comment zairakh just trolling as almost always.
     
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  16. DeepBlue

    DeepBlue Head Moderator (EU) Head moderator

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    so the new 34 class split for awakened chars seems to be a clear winner from the korean side with 54.3% of votes - adding the results to date from our own poll will have little effect on that result and as was stated already by nam gung-gon from the lineage 2 development department.

    seems they made their mind up before they even ran the poll and the poll just confirms for them that they made the right choice, at least for their korean playerbase.
     
  17. Zairakh

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    honestly i dont see how.
    for various reasons a big part of the old players wont come back to a game that doesnt meet their taste anymore (else why they would've left?) cause of the latest changes and the new players wouldnt get easily attracted from an old title that is not offering anything specific in a moment that is offering so many recent releases in terms of mmo.
    the asian market is another matter,but even there soon or later the players drainout will start to be a major issue.

    they had a dispatched branch pretty much indipendant that completely collapsed forcing the koreans to lock them and send new boss from seul.
    in the west aion failed terribly and in the same time l2 suffered for depopulation and lack of communication.
    we all remember how much it took to upgrade from freya to high five and then already people pointed out in which conditions ncwest was.

    yea,on a official version is a shareholding,but when someone cover your society for the 59% of values and having the whole nc heads on a plate as the new nexon deal took place seems pretty much a take over.
    you make it sound like ncsoft economical state was healty and successful,while in fact it wasn't.
    nexon agreed to cover the financial exposition of ncsoft by gaining a control of their actual productive assets and their future marketing choices.
    in this,the failure on western market played a big role,there is also an interwiew to some american employee at ncwest but need to find it....

    this in the business mechanism is a take over.
    basicly nexon said "we make your products works,but we pretend to get a fair share of the profits you were unable to make,and by your side we give you the funds you need to rebuild your company".
    now,the whole business-marketing guideline is nexon's,not ncsoft.

    word. :(
     
  18. DeepBlue

    DeepBlue Head Moderator (EU) Head moderator

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    guys, please do not turn this into a discussion thread, its for feedback and suggestions only. if you wish to have a discussion about it use pm's or the offtopic section in the case of this topic.

    regards.
     
  19. Roadster

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    the disscusion that it was up until now, is ok, when they will start saying go @#$%^& and #$%^& and #$%^& and $%^&, than it will be not interesting...
    on topic, i have doubts that they will make it good, i mean the transition to 34 classes again. it is just stupid context to new player, you pick a char, than you become 1 in 8 and 14 lvl's later you become 1 in 34 again. i love old chronicles, i wish there were no awakening, but if they went this way, they should just add something unique to each race, like it was the old days, elven archers were fastest, let them be all with the same skills, but add something not so harmful like imbalanced skills. if people will have to consider of starting new char, than it will be stupid update :)

    personally i am most of all pissed at them because, they made iss from every other char, well i can get that prophet, wc, dc became equal, but they should create another race for bd/sws they would only buff sonatas, that would be best i think :)
     
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  20. DeepBlue

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    this is not the way they have portrayed the system to work. if you read the details from the links provided earlier in this thread you will see that they intend to split the awakening classes. that means at awakening (not some levels later) instead of having only one option, you will have 4 options, for example a phoenix knight at awakening would have a choice of sigel knight phoenix knight, sigel knight hell knight, sigel knight shilien's templar, sigel knight eva's templar instead of just having a sigel knight option.
     
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