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Unbalanced items in shop (Boost enchant rate for 10%)

Discussion in 'Archive' started by AD1736, Dec 7, 2011.

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  1. AD1736

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    delete this thread, thanks
     
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  2. darky

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    when they changed the 1/3 enchant success rate?
     
  3. AD1736

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    it was always 2/3 what i know.
     
  4. Koren

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    add a <p> tar or something, no indent hurts my eyes
     
  5. AD1736

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    it doesn't matter how it looks like :)
     
  6. escalibran

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    aren't rates for weapons 70% and 40% for >+16?
    if the enhancement is 10% that would be 80% and 50%
    if it's multiplicative, 77 and 44%. well. meh. still luck based.

    and your site is smoking some dope, always producing a random number.
    make it a fixed number of attempts, give us the number of attempts....

    2nd number just cant be the number of fails for a sample anywhere near as big as the one used for 1st...
     
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  7. darky

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    it was always 1/3 if it was 2/3 everyone would have a freakish amount of oe weapons/armors
     
  8. escalibran

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    nah, its just armor getting worse and worse chances with every +.
     
  9. 1tm

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    after 2 browser refreshs:
    something has to be wrong with formula. as far as i know for every + success rate decreases. its hard to know enchant rates for +16 not knowing game source code.
     
  10. Koren

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    so true.
    [​IMG]

    and lol you did that just for advertising ?
     
  11. darky

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    until freya even in ncsoft client had a hint for that which clearly stated success rate of 1/3
     
  12. CyberX

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    thes its 33% chance + 10% donate = 43% on enchant armor/weapon? right?
     
  13. escalibran

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    lol i just figured it i think
    his code stops after the first success and returns the number of attempts needed.
    theres some statistical evidence for u trololo.

    to get the real values, just go do 0.66 ^13 and .76 ^13 (or whatever you believe are the rates)

    ie, 1 in 222 for 66% chance, 1 in 36 for 76% chance. if its 110% of 66%, its only 72.6% chance, leading to 1 in 64.
    have fun spending that much money, just to get screwed over by the rng failing you for the first 100 attempts because its still just that, random.


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    and about chance: that thing from freya stated that you have a 1/3 chance... of failing a weapon enchant above +3. 2/3 success. there u go.

    just restarted a couple of times till i got the right useful information pop up in the loading screen.
    http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6357/unbenannttkz.png
     
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  14. Fahrenheit

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    you have not counted it correctly, i am afraid, this item gives +10% to enchanting probability, but please take into consideration the korean way of thinking. thus this formula will look like this :10% out of chance to 66%=6.6%, and this is what goes to the chance of getting enchanting, thus the chance that you might enchant you item for +4 is 66%+6.6%=72.6% and so on.
     
  15. Limaro

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    just a whine. in fact, there are not so many oe weapons or armors on the servers.
     
  16. 1tm

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    they just write that, its isn't true. mostly i enchant items upto +10/+12 with 0/3 fail chance, and after everything burns at 3/3. enchant rate decrease every + you put.
     
  17. CyberX

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    then normal enchant rate is 66% and with donate be 76% or what? :-o, i have 76% chance enchant weapon +16..holy guakamoly
     
  18. Koren

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    you dont know how to read ?

    i can't explain it better than farenheit did.
    66% + (10% of 66%)
    66% + 6.6%
    72.6%
     
  19. yas

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    not to mention how overpriced that item is...
     
  20. TeMePyT

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    in pts 4 attempts to make my dual daggers +5 with destruction scroll+weapon enchancement stone failed, they`re still +4. i dont think its so op item...
     
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